Re: Synchronizing slots from primary to standby

From: "Drouvot, Bertrand" <bertranddrouvot(dot)pg(at)gmail(dot)com>
To: shveta malik <shveta(dot)malik(at)gmail(dot)com>
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Subject: Re: Synchronizing slots from primary to standby
Date: 2023-12-05 08:48:34
Message-ID: 40e1d73f-a09d-4608-8efa-750c998c3287@gmail.com
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Hi,

On 12/5/23 6:08 AM, shveta malik wrote:
> On Mon, Dec 4, 2023 at 10:07 PM Drouvot, Bertrand
> <bertranddrouvot(dot)pg(at)gmail(dot)com> wrote:
>> Maybe another option could be to have the walreceiver a way to let the slot sync
>> worker knows that it (the walreceiver) was not able to start due to non existing
>> replication slot on the primary? (that way we'd avoid the slot sync worker having
>> to talk to the primary).
>
> Few points:
> 1) I think if we do it, we should do it in generic way i.e. slotsync
> worker should go to no-op if walreceiver is not able to start due to
> any reason and not only due to invalid primary_slot_name.

Agree.

> 2) Secondly, slotsync worker needs to make sure it has synced the
> slots so far i.e. worker should not go to no-op immediately on seeing
> missing WalRcv process if there are pending slots to be synced.

Agree.

> So the generic way I see to have this optimization is:
> 1) Slotsync worker can use 'WalRcv->pid' to figure out if WalReceiver
> is running or not.

Not sure that would work because the walreceiver keeps try re-starting
and so get a pid before reaching the "could not start WAL streaming: ERROR: replication slot "XXXX" does not exist"
error.

We may want to add an extra check on walrcv->walRcvState (or should/could be enough by its own).
But walrcv->walRcvState is set to WALRCV_STREAMING way before walrcv_startstreaming().

Wouldn't that make sense to move it once we are sure that
walrcv_startstreaming() returns true and first_stream is true, here?

"
if (first_stream)
+ {
ereport(LOG,
(errmsg("started streaming WAL from primary at %X/%X on timeline %u",
LSN_FORMAT_ARGS(startpoint), startpointTLI)));
+ SpinLockAcquire(&walrcv->mutex);
+ walrcv->walRcvState = WALRCV_STREAMING;
+ SpinLockRelease(&walrcv->mutex);
+ }
"

> 2) Slotsync worker should check null 'WalRcv->pid' only when
> no-activity is observed for threshold time i.e. it can do it during
> existing logic of increasing naptime.
> 3) On finding null 'WalRcv->pid', worker can mark a flag to go to
> no-op unless WalRcv->pid becomes valid again. Marking this flag during
> increasing naptime will guarantee that the worker has taken all the
> changes so far i.e. standby is not lagging in terms of slots.
>

2) and 3) looks good to me but with a check on walrcv->walRcvState
looking for WALRCV_STREAMING state instead of looking for a non null
WalRcv->pid.

And only if it makes sense to move the walrcv->walRcvState = WALRCV_STREAMING as
mentioned above (I think it does).

Thoughts?

Regards,

--
Bertrand Drouvot
PostgreSQL Contributors Team
RDS Open Source Databases
Amazon Web Services: https://aws.amazon.com

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