Re: [HACKERS] What can we learn from MySQL?

From: Shachar Shemesh <psql(at)shemesh(dot)biz>
To: Bruce Momjian <pgman(at)candle(dot)pha(dot)pa(dot)us>
Cc: PostgreSQL-development <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org>, PostgreSQL advocacy <pgsql-advocacy(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: [HACKERS] What can we learn from MySQL?
Date: 2004-04-23 07:11:11
Message-ID: 4088C18F.9090807@shemesh.biz
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Bruce Momjian wrote:

>Here is a blog about a recent MySQL conference with title, "Why MySQL
>Grew So Fast":
>
> http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/wlg/4715
>
>and a a Slashdot discussion about it:
>
> http://developers.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=04/04/20/2229212&mode=nested&tid=137&tid=185&tid=187&tid=198
>
>My question is, "What can we learn from MySQL?" I don't know there is
>anything, but I think it makes sense to ask the question.
>
>Questions I have are:
>
> o Are we marketing ourselves properly?
> o Are we focused enough on ease-of-use issues?
> o How do we position ourselves against a database that some
> say is "good enough" (MySQL), and another one that some
> say is "too much" (Oracle)
> o Are our priorities too technically driven?
>
>
>
Do we care enough about interoperability?

When I ask about non-standard complience of Pg (turning unquoted
identifiers to lowercase instead of uppercase, violating the SQL
standard, and requring an expensive rewrite of clients), and I get the
answer "uppercase is ugly", I think something is wrong.

To be fair, I got a fair amount of legitimate problems with MIGRATING to
standard compliency. I find these issues legitimate, though solveable.
Getting a "we prefer lowercase to the standard", however, means to me
that even if I write a patch to start migration, I'm not likely to get
it in.

Shachar

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Shachar Shemesh
Lingnu Open Source Consulting
http://www.lingnu.com/

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