Re: Add recovery to pg_control and remove backup_label

From: David Steele <david(at)pgmasters(dot)net>
To: Stefan Fercot <stefan(dot)fercot(at)protonmail(dot)com>
Cc: Michael Paquier <michael(at)paquier(dot)xyz>, Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com>, Andres Freund <andres(at)anarazel(dot)de>, Postgres hackers <pgsql-hackers(at)lists(dot)postgresql(dot)org>, Stephen Frost <sfrost(at)snowman(dot)net>
Subject: Re: Add recovery to pg_control and remove backup_label
Date: 2024-05-17 02:53:53
Message-ID: 3e0a9ca1-5b08-45c9-8886-5cb4fb6cc72b@pgmasters.net
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On 4/16/24 18:55, Stefan Fercot wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Sunday, March 10th, 2024 at 4:47 AM, David Steele wrote:
>> I've had a new idea which may revive this patch. The basic idea is to
>> keep backup_label but also return a copy of pg_control from
>> pg_stop_backup(). This copy of pg_control would be safe from tears and
>> have a backupLabelRequired field set (as Andres suggested) so recovery
>> cannot proceed without the backup label.
>>
>> So, everything will continue to work as it does now. But, backup
>> software can be enhanced to write the improved pg_control that is
>> guaranteed not to be torn and has protection against a missing backup label.
>>
>> Of course, pg_basebackup will write the new backupLabelRequired field
>> into pg_control, but this way third party software can also gain
>> advantages from the new field.
>
> Bump on this idea.
>
> Given the discussion in [1], even if it obviously makes sense to improve the in core backup capabilities, the more we go in that direction, the more we'll rely on outside orchestration.
> So IMHO it also worth worrying about given more leverage to such orchestration tools. In that sense, I really like the idea to extend the backup functions.

I have implemented this idea and created a new thread [1] for it.
Hopefully it will address the concerns expressed in this thread.

Regards,
-David

[1]
https://www.postgresql.org/message-id/e2636c5d-c031-43c9-a5d6-5e5c7e4c5514%40pgmasters.net

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