Re: Heap WARM Tuples - Design Draft

From: Jim Nasby <Jim(dot)Nasby(at)BlueTreble(dot)com>
To: Bruce Momjian <bruce(at)momjian(dot)us>, Pavan Deolasee <pavan(dot)deolasee(at)gmail(dot)com>
Cc: Claudio Freire <klaussfreire(at)gmail(dot)com>, pgsql-hackers <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: Heap WARM Tuples - Design Draft
Date: 2016-08-09 23:19:57
Message-ID: 3d8ebf8f-f730-a8f9-a9ee-176530132036@BlueTreble.com
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On 8/8/16 3:19 PM, Bruce Momjian wrote:
>> What will help, and something I haven't yet applied any thoughts, is when we
>> > can turn WARM chains back to HOT by removing stale index entries.
> I can't see how we can ever do that because we have multiple indexes
> pointing to the chain, and keys that might be duplicated if we switched
> to HOT. Seems only VACUUM can fix that.

Are these changes still predicated on being able to re-find all index
entries by key value? If so, that makes incremental vacuums practical,
perhaps eliminating a lot of these issues.

>>> > > We can't use the bits LP_REDIRECT lp_len because we need to create WARM
>>> > > chains before pruning, and I don't think walking the pre-pruned chain is
>>> > > worth it. (As I understand HOT, LP_REDIRECT is only created during
>>> > > pruning.)
>> >
>> > That's correct. But lp_len provides us some place to stash information from
>> > heap tuples when they are pruned.
> Right. However, I see storing information at prune time as only useful
> if you are willing to scan the chain, and frankly, I have given up on
> chain scanning (with column comparisons) as being too expensive for
> its limited value.

What if some of this work happened asynchronously? I'm thinking
something that runs through shared_buffers in front of bgwriter.
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