From: | Jan Wieck <JanWieck(at)Yahoo(dot)com> |
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To: | Bruce Momjian <pgman(at)candle(dot)pha(dot)pa(dot)us> |
Cc: | Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>, Greg Stark <gsstark(at)mit(dot)edu>, pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org |
Subject: | Re: Experimental patch for inter-page delay in VACUUM |
Date: | 2003-11-10 21:16:38 |
Message-ID: | 3FB00036.7090206@Yahoo.com |
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Bruce Momjian wrote:
> Jan Wieck wrote:
>> >> > If the background cleaner has to not just write() but write/fsync or
>> >> > write/O_SYNC, it isn't going to be able to clean them fast enough. It
>> >> > creates a bottleneck where we didn't have one before.
>> >> >
>> >> > We are trying to eliminate an I/O storm during checkpoint, but the
>> >> > solutions seem to be making the non-checkpoint times slower.
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >> It looks as if you're assuming that I am making the backends unable to
>> >> write on their own, so that they have to wait on the checkpointer. I
>> >> never said that.
>> >
>> > Maybe I missed it but are those backend now doing write or write/fsync?
>> > If the former, that is fine. If the later, it does seem slower than it
>> > used to be.
>>
>> In my all_performance.v4.diff they do write and the checkpointer does
>> write+sync.
>
> Again, sorry to be confusing --- I might be good to try write/fsync from
> the background writer if backends can do writes on their own too without
> fsync. The additional fsync from the background writer should reduce
> disk writing during sync(). (The fsync should happen with the buffer
> unlocked.)
No, you're not. But thank you for suggesting what I implemented.
Jan
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