Re: Replaceing records

From: Jan Wieck <JanWieck(at)Yahoo(dot)com>
To: Ron Johnson <ron(dot)l(dot)johnson(at)cox(dot)net>
Cc: PgSQL General ML <pgsql-general(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: Replaceing records
Date: 2003-09-10 05:31:59
Message-ID: 3F5EB74F.5010708@Yahoo.com
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Ron Johnson wrote:

> On Fri, 2003-09-05 at 08:29, Jan Wieck wrote:
>> It was not meant against anyone in person and I agree that nested
>> transactions and/or catchable exceptions and continuing afterwards is
>> usefull and missing in PostgreSQL. What Stephan and Richard where
>> actually discussing was more like emulating the REPLACE INTO, and I was
>> responding to that.
>>
>> However, even with nested transactions and exceptions and all that, your
>> problem will not be cleanly solvable. You basically have 2 choices,
>> trying the INSERT first and if that fails with a duplicate key then do
>> the UPDATE, or try the UPDATE first and if no rows got hit do an INSERT.
>> Now if 2 concurrent transactions do try the UPDATE they can both not
>> find the row and do INSERT - one has a dupkey error. But if you try to
>> INSERT and get a duplicate key, in the time between you get the error
>> and issue the UPDATE someone else can issue a DELETE - the row is gone
>> and your UPDATE will fail.
>
> SERIALIZABLE transactions will solve this.

Sure will they.

Care to elaborate a bit about the side effects of SERIALIZABLE? I mean
semantics AND performance wise ... people tend to use suggestions like
this without thinking (about the consequences).

Jan :-T

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