Re: pga3 website

From: Andreas Pflug <pgadmin(at)pse-consulting(dot)de>
To: Dave Page <dpage(at)vale-housing(dot)co(dot)uk>
Cc: jm(dot)poure(at)freesurf(dot)fr, pgadmin-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org
Subject: Re: pga3 website
Date: 2003-08-05 22:18:34
Message-ID: 3F302D3A.9030104@pse-consulting.de
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Dave Page wrote:

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>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Andreas Pflug [mailto:pgadmin(at)pse-consulting(dot)de]
>>Sent: 05 August 2003 22:09
>>To: Dave Page
>>Cc: jm(dot)poure(at)freesurf(dot)fr; pgadmin-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org
>>Subject: Re: [pgadmin-hackers] pga3 website
>>
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>>Dave Page wrote:
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>>>I'm not after state of the art for the sake of it. The major
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>>reasons I
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>>>use MSI are:
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>>>a) Easily scriptable for any msi file for automated installation
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>pgAdmin3 probably won't be distributed widely in a company,
>>so I doubt
>>pgAdmin3 will ever be distributed automatically.
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>I know of at least one case where pgAdmin II is used in this way though
>I cannot go into details of that particular site. It also allows easy,
>seamless installation as a post intall step of other installers.
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>>>b) Allows use/creation of merge modules for easy bundling of
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>>software -
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>>>something Jean-Michel is extremely keen on.
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>>Bundle with what?
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>PostgreSQL, psqlODBC, Npgsql, WinMaster...
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I don't believe it until I see it happening.

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>>So there's a monopolization for D.P. at the moment for compiling the
>>releases...
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>Not really. You could get the Installer SDK from Microsoft (it's free),
>or Wise, Installshield or anything else that supports MSI. Most will
>open the MSI file directly, not requiring the Wise project file at all.
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The pkg\win32 is tied to Wise now. AFAICS MS Installer seems to be *not*
free (I believed that too, until I tried to locate it today, it's free
for "licensed customers of any VS6 Prof or Enterprise"), and VS6SP3 is a
prerequisite either. While running in a MS-only development world is
easy, we should provide non-MS ways too. Currently, using the MS
Installer SDK would be consistent since we still need MS to compile.
BTW, to anticipate Jean-Michel: a multi-language installation process
would be nice :-)

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>Besides which, so what if I make the builds? I've done it for the last 6
>years anyway, and as Jean-Michel said quite recently, the installers I
>build are of good quality.
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There's no doubt about the quality, just do it....

Regards,
Andreas

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