Re: Roadmap for FE/BE protocol redesign

From: Justin Clift <justin(at)postgresql(dot)org>
To: Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>
Cc: pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org
Subject: Re: Roadmap for FE/BE protocol redesign
Date: 2003-03-11 07:24:24
Message-ID: 3E6D8F28.9060605@postgresql.org
Views: Raw Message | Whole Thread | Download mbox | Resend email
Thread:
Lists: pgsql-hackers pgsql-interfaces

Tom Lane wrote:
> Justin Clift <justin(at)postgresql(dot)org> writes:
>
>>The scenario that's appealing to me the most is this for the next release:
>>PostgreSQL 8.0
>>+ Includes PITR and the Win32 port
>
> If the folks doing those things can get done in time, great. I'm even
> willing to push out the release schedule (now, not later) to make it
> more likely they can get done. What I'm not willing to do is define
> the release in terms of "it happens when these things are done". We
> learned the folly of that approach in 7.1 and 7.2. Setting a target
> date and sticking to it works *much* better.

Yep, we both seem to be saying that we'd like these features, but we
don't want to see them become delay-points.

>>+ Not sure where Satoshi is up to with his 2 phase commit proposal, but
>>that might make sense to incorporate into a wire protocol revision.
>
> I can't see any need for protocol-level support for such a thing.
> Why wouldn't it just be some more SQL commands?

Not sure. It seems like 2PC will be required/desirable within the year
for better support of some clustering scenarios, so we "might as well
look at it now". When I was reading Satoshi's stuff a while ago I
thought it was a protcol level thing, not a SQL command level thing, but
don't really care either way. :)

Regards and best wishes,

Justin Clift

> (Not that I believe in 2PC as a real-world solution anyway, but that's
> a different argument...)
>
> regards, tom lane

--
"My grandfather once told me that there are two kinds of people: those
who work and those who take the credit. He told me to try to be in the
first group; there was less competition there."
- Indira Gandhi

In response to

Browse pgsql-hackers by date

  From Date Subject
Next Message Christoph Haller 2003-03-11 09:09:11 gmake -C regress check failure
Previous Message Tatsuo Ishii 2003-03-11 05:45:58 Re: [BUGS] Bug #908: Can not INSERT Cyrilic characters when use

Browse pgsql-interfaces by date

  From Date Subject
Next Message Magnus Hagander 2003-03-11 09:21:17 Re: [INTERFACES] Roadmap for FE/BE protocol redesign
Previous Message Tom Lane 2003-03-11 05:32:01 Re: Beta schedule (was Roadmap for FE/BE protocol redesign)