Re: Two features left

From: Jean-Luc Lachance <jllachan(at)nsd(dot)ca>
To: Jon Swinth <jswinth(at)atomicpc(dot)com>
Cc: Bruce Momjian <pgman(at)candle(dot)pha(dot)pa(dot)us>, pgsql-general(at)postgresql(dot)org
Subject: Re: Two features left
Date: 2002-11-27 22:56:17
Message-ID: 3DE54D91.23B9F79D@nsd.ca
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Jon,

What I would like to be able to do is within a loop for example, commit
each iteration.

Jon Swinth wrote:
>
> Hmm... I'm not quite sure what you mean by function start point. It has been
> a while since I did any embeded DB code. Everything now is through a JDBC
> interface using standard SQL calls.
>
> It sounds like you are wanting to be able to place a BEGIN statement within a
> function call to make sure the calls within the function are in a transaction
> and to be able to abort to that point. The issue I see with doing your
> nested transactions vs. savepoint is that you would have to invent a way to
> mark the end of the sub-transaction without a commit/rollback. Here is an
> example:
>
> BEGIN;
> UPDATE...
> function_a(){
> BEGIN
> UPDATE
> function_b() {
> BEGIN
> UPDATE
> } //end function_b
> UPDATE
> ABORT
> } //end function_a
> UPDATE
> COMMIT;
>
> How does the system know that the ABORT in the second half of function_a
> should rollback to the BEGIN in function_a rather than the BEGIN in
> function_b? The other issue I have seen is where you want to overwrite a
> point, which you can usually do with a SAVEPOINT structure. This is
> especially usefull in a looping structure where you want to be albe to roll
> out one loop.
>
> BEGIN;
> UPDATE...
> function_a(){
> UPDATE
> SAVEPOINT a ;
> LOOP
> function_b() {
> SAVEPOINT b;
> UPDATE
> UPDATE
> UPDATE
> IF error ROLLBACK TO b ;
> } //end function_b
> UPDATE
> SAVEPOINT a ;
> END LOOP;
> } //end function_a
> UPDATE
> COMMIT;
>
> In this case the function_b may be something that tries to place something
> somewhere and has multiple updates. If one of the updates fails then you
> want to be able to rollback to the beginning loop value and let the next
> iteration of the loop try out the next location. This type of structure is
> especially usefull when there are many simultanious threads going on doing a
> simular operation.
>
> On Wednesday 27 November 2002 01:45 pm, Jean-Luc Lachance wrote:
> > Jon,
> >
> > That is all fine and dandy, but aren't function start point candidate
> > for a rollback to point?
> > A transaction is currently implicitely started on function call, and we
> > get into the same problem as with nested transaction when a function
> > calls another one.
> >
> > Don't get me wrong, I thing SAVEPOINT and ROLLBACK TO is a great idea,
> > but nested transaction is needed.
> >
> > JLL
>
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