[Fwd: AW: More UB-Tree patent information]

From: Justin Clift <justin(at)postgresql(dot)org>
To: PostgreSQL Hackers Mailing List <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org>, PostgreSQL General Mailing List <pgsql-general(at)postgresql(dot)org>, Oleg Bartunov <oleg(at)sai(dot)msu(dot)su>
Subject: [Fwd: AW: More UB-Tree patent information]
Date: 2002-04-10 14:32:40
Message-ID: 3CB44D08.3ACE5E51@postgresql.org
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Hi everyone,

This is Prof. Bayer's response to the question "is it alright to use
UB-Tree's in Open Source projects?".

It's a "No, but we can discuss a licensing model" type answer.

Regards and best wishes,

Justin Clift

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: AW: More UB-Tree patent information
Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 15:26:05 +0200
From: "Prof. Rudolf Bayer" <bayer(at)informatik(dot)tu-muenchen(dot)de>
To: "Justin Clift" <justin(at)postgresql(dot)org>

Dear Justin,
I am personally holder of the patents.
concerning your question:
> Specifically wondering if it's alright to use UB-Tree's in
> Open Source projects.
the answer is NO, unless there is a patent agreement with me.
Please let me know, what specifically the interests and business models
are,
then we could discuss a licensing model in line with the already
existing
license agreements,
best regards,
R. Bayer
*************************************************************************
Prof. Rudolf Bayer, Ph.D.
Institut fuer Informatik, Technische Universitaet Muenchen
Orleansstr. 34, D-81667 Muenchen, Germany
tel: ++49-89-48095 171 email: bayer(at)in(dot)tum(dot)de
fax: ++49-89-48095 170 http://www3.informatik.tu-muenchen.de

> -----Ursprungliche Nachricht-----
> Von: Justin Clift [mailto:justin(at)postgresql(dot)org]
> Gesendet: Dienstag, 9. April 2002 23:04
> An: Professor Rudolf Bayer
> Cc: PostgreSQL General Mailing List
> Betreff: More UB-Tree patent information
>
>
> Hi Prof. Bayer,
>
> Haven't heard anything back from you regarding the patents on
> UB-Tree's. Specifically wondering if it's alright to use UB-Tree's in
> Open Source projects.
>
> On a related topic, in your paper "The Universal B-Tree for
> multidimensional Indexing"
> (http://mistral.in.tum.de/results/publications/TUM-I9637.pdf) you
> mention a German "Patent Pending" number of "196 35 429.3", is this the
> one which was approved in Europe?
>
> In the paper "Bulk Loading a Data Warehouse built upon a UB-Tree"
> (http://mistral.in.tum.de/results/publications/FKM+00.pdf) it mentions
> the Japanese Patent filed on 22nd May 2000, Application Number
> 2000-149648. Is this the Japanese patent for UB-Trees which hasn't yet
> been approved?
>
> :)
>
> Regards and best wishes,
>
> Justin Clift
>
> --
> "My grandfather once told me that there are two kinds of people: those
> who work and those who take the credit. He told me to try to be in the
> first group; there was less competition there."
> - Indira Gandhi
>

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