From: | Hannu Krosing <hannu(at)tm(dot)ee> |
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To: | pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org |
Cc: | Colin Strickland <cms(at)sift(dot)co(dot)uk> |
Subject: | Re: Universal admin frontend |
Date: | 2001-06-21 17:48:32 |
Message-ID: | 3B323370.A32A8DB3@tm.ee |
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Colin Strickland wrote:
>
> On 21 Jun 2001 19:23:09 +1000, Mark Pritchard wrote:
> > > >PostgreSQL is written completely in C. The development community
> > > >has shown that it is
> > [snip]
> > > >The administration task can be separated in 2 different tasks:
> > [snip]
> >
> > Isn't this essentially the split between postmaster/workers and a client?
> > i.e. I don't know how much value is added by introducing another
> > communication protocol when JDBC would work fine. From my understanding of
> > the users API you can handle pretty much everything other than pg_dump. Eg
> > CREATE USER, CREATE DATABASE etc can all be issued from a client using
> > standard PostgreSQL SQL.
> >
> > I'd have to cast my vote on the Java frontend.
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Mark Pritchard
> >
>
> For an admin tool you might want to display OS info , server load,
> database file sizes, logfile viewing etc.
> I have been working on such a tool for my own use , ( GTK+ based front
> end) and decided that a client / server model would be the most useful
> approach. I was probably going to write a separate daemon rather than
> integrate new stuff into the backend.
Actually we could start it by offering the standard SQL92 wiews for
system
tables and PG-standard PL/PGSQLfunctions for things that can't currently
be
done in SQL standard way, like removing primary key or dropping a
column.
Having _one_ _documented_ way for even the things that psql's \d
commands can
show would make writing other system tools much easier.
And yes, I think a separate deamon approach will be needed for many
things
anyway (like changing pg_hba.conf or firewall rules, showing system
logs, ...).
seems that something using some standard protocol (I would favour
XML-RPC (for
simplicity) over https (for security)) to expose actions would be a good
candidate for the daemon thingie.
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Hannu
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