| From: | Joe Conway <mail(at)joeconway(dot)com> |
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| To: | Alvaro Herrera <alvherre(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com>, Bruce Momjian <bruce(at)momjian(dot)us> |
| Cc: | Stephen Frost <sfrost(at)snowman(dot)net>, Ryan Lambert <ryan(at)rustprooflabs(dot)com>, Antonin Houska <ah(at)cybertec(dot)at>, Masahiko Sawada <sawada(dot)mshk(at)gmail(dot)com>, Tomas Vondra <tomas(dot)vondra(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com>, Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com>, Haribabu Kommi <kommi(dot)haribabu(at)gmail(dot)com>, "Moon, Insung" <Moon_Insung_i3(at)lab(dot)ntt(dot)co(dot)jp>, Ibrar Ahmed <ibrar(dot)ahmad(at)gmail(dot)com>, PostgreSQL-development <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org> |
| Subject: | Re: [Proposal] Table-level Transparent Data Encryption (TDE) and Key Management Service (KMS) |
| Date: | 2019-07-10 21:43:58 |
| Message-ID: | 361c6dfd-5797-8f5c-89d9-517f2839be26@joeconway.com |
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On 7/10/19 3:53 PM, Alvaro Herrera wrote:
> On 2019-Jul-10, Bruce Momjian wrote:
>
>> Good, so I think we all now agree we have to put the nonce
>> (pg_class.oid, LSN, page-number) though the cipher using the secret.
(been traveling -- just trying to get caught up on this thread)
> Actually, why do you need the page number in the nonce? The LSN already
> distinguishes pages -- you can't have two pages with the same LSN, can
> you? (I do think you can have multiple writes of the same page with
> different LSNs, if you change hint bits and don't write WAL about it,
Do you mean "multiple writes of the same page without..."?
> but maybe we should force CRC enabled in encrypted tables, which I think
> closes this hole?)
If we can use the LSN (perhaps with CRC) without the page number that
would seem to be a good idea.
Joe
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