Re: "for SELECT DISTINCT, ORDER BY expressions must appear in select list" - is that the standart or a limitation of postgresql?

From: "Walter Cruz" <walter(dot)php(at)gmail(dot)com>
To: "Tom Lane" <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>
Cc: "Michael Glaesemann" <grzm(at)seespotcode(dot)net>, "Richard Huxton" <dev(at)archonet(dot)com>, pgsql-sql(at)postgresql(dot)org
Subject: Re: "for SELECT DISTINCT, ORDER BY expressions must appear in select list" - is that the standart or a limitation of postgresql?
Date: 2007-02-15 22:59:58
Message-ID: 32cabba0702151459m4829c489y67b40f53e27134a1@mail.gmail.com
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Thanks Tom, Thank all :)

Maybe the commentary on parse_clase.c (beggining with "Now, DISTINCT
list consists of all non-resjunk") needs to be updated - In the
comment, looks likes this is a postgresql limitation.

[]'s
- Walter

On 2/15/07, Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us> wrote:
> Michael Glaesemann <grzm(at)seespotcode(dot)net> writes:
> > On Feb 15, 2007, at 22:35 , Richard Huxton wrote:
> >> Walter Cruz wrote:
> >>> The error: ERROR: for SELECT DISTINCT, ORDER BY expressions must
> >>> appear in select list is due to a standart implementarion or a design
> >>> decision of postgres?
> >>
> >> I think ORDER BY is defined to take place after DISTINCT, which
> >> means there is no meaningful "number" for it to order by. You could
> >> arbitrarily choose the first number encountered, but I can't see
> >> what sense it would make to order by them.
>
> > I believe the reason is that DISTINCT depends on a sort to determine
> > uniqueness (distinctness), so it's a implementation detail that if
> > you're going to include an ORDER BY, you also need to include the
> > same columns in the ORDER BY in the DISTINCT clause.
>
> No, there's actually a definitional reason for it. Consider
>
> SELECT DISTINCT x FROM tab ORDER BY y;
>
> For any particular x-value in the table there might be many different y
> values. Which one will you use to sort that x-value in the output?
>
> Back in SQL92 they avoided this problem by specifying that ORDER BY
> entries had to reference output columns. SQL99 has some messy verbiage
> that I think comes out at the same place as our restriction:
>
> A) If K(i) is not equivalent to a <value expression>
> immediately contained in any <derived column> in the
> <select list> SL of <query specification> QS contained
> in QE, then:
>
> I) T shall not be a grouped table.
>
> II) QS shall not specify the <set quantifier> DISTINCT
> or directly contain one or more <set function
> specification>s.
>
>
> regards, tom lane
>

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