Re: tablesample performance

From: Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>
To: Simon Riggs <simon(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com>
Cc: Andy Colson <andy(at)squeakycode(dot)net>, Francisco Olarte <folarte(at)peoplecall(dot)com>, pgsql <pgsql-general(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: tablesample performance
Date: 2016-10-18 20:06:20
Message-ID: 31741.1476821180@sss.pgh.pa.us
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Simon Riggs <simon(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com> writes:
> On 18 October 2016 at 19:34, Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us> wrote:
>> If you don't want to have an implicit bias towards earlier blocks,
>> I don't think that either standard tablesample method is really what
>> you want.
>>
>> The contrib/tsm_system_rows tablesample method is a lot closer, in
>> that it will start at a randomly chosen block, but if you just do
>> "tablesample system_rows(1)" then you will always get the first row
>> in whichever block it lands on, so it's still not exactly unbiased.

> Is there a reason why we can't fix the behaviours of the three methods
> mentioned above by making them all start at a random block and a
> random item between min and max?

The standard tablesample methods are constrained by other requirements,
such as repeatability. I am not sure that loading this one on top of
that is a good idea. The bias I referred to above is *not* the fault
of the sample methods, rather it's the fault of using "LIMIT 1".

It does seem like maybe it'd be nice for tsm_system_rows to start at a
randomly chosen entry in the first block it visits, rather than always
dumping that entire block. Then "tablesample system_rows(1)" would
actually give you a pretty random row, and I think we aren't giving up
any useful properties it has now.

regards, tom lane

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