Re: bumping HASH_VERSION to 3

From: Joe Conway <mail(at)joeconway(dot)com>
To: Magnus Hagander <magnus(at)hagander(dot)net>, Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com>
Cc: "pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org" <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: bumping HASH_VERSION to 3
Date: 2017-04-03 16:29:23
Message-ID: 2be1c47c-143e-05bc-31d0-e1ee3e8865b9@joeconway.com
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On 03/31/2017 11:19 AM, Magnus Hagander wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 31, 2017 at 8:17 PM, Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com
> <mailto:robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com>> wrote:
>
> Starting a new thread about this to get more visibility.
>
> Despite the extensive work that has been done on hash indexes this
> release, we have thus far not made any change to the on-disk format
> that is not nominally backward-compatible. Commit
> 293e24e507838733aba4748b514536af2d39d7f2 did make a change for new
> hash indexes, but included backward-compatibility code so that old
> indexes would continue to work. However, I'd like to also commit
> Mithun Cy's patch to expand hash indexes more gradually -- latest
> version in
> http://postgr.es/m/CAD__OujD-iBxm91ZcqziaYftWqJxnFqgMv361V9zke83s6ifBg@mail.gmail.com
> <http://postgr.es/m/CAD__OujD-iBxm91ZcqziaYftWqJxnFqgMv361V9zke83s6ifBg@mail.gmail.com>
> -- and that's not backward-compatible.
>
> It would be possible to write code to convert the old metapage format
> to the new metapage format introduced by that patch, and it wouldn't
> be very hard, but I think it would be better to NOT do that, and
> instead force everybody upgrading to v10 to rebuild all of their hash
> indexes. If we don't do that, then we'll never know whether
> instances of hash index corruption reported against v10 or higher are
> caused by defects in the new code, because there's always the chance
> that the hash index could have been built on a pre-v10 version, got
> corrupted because of the lack of WAL-logging, and then been brought up
> to v10+ via pg_upgrade. Forcing a reindex in v10 kills three birds
> with one stone:
>
> - No old, not logged, possibly corrupt hash indexes floating around
> after an upgrade to v10.
> - Can remove the backward-compatibility code added by
> 293e24e507838733aba4748b514536af2d39d7f2 instead of keeping it around
> forever.
> - No need to worry about doing an in-place upgrade of the metapage for
> the above-mentioned patch.
>
> Thoughts?
>
>
> Given the state of hash indexes in <= 9.6, I think this is a reasonable
> tradeoff. Most people won't be using them at all today. Those that do
> will have to "pay" with a REINDEX on upgrade. I think the benefits
> definitely outweigh the cost.
>
> So +1 for doing it.

+1

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