Re: make MaxBackends available in _PG_init

From: Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>
To: Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com>
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Subject: Re: make MaxBackends available in _PG_init
Date: 2022-05-06 14:43:21
Message-ID: 2890782.1651848201@sss.pgh.pa.us
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Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com> writes:
> On Fri, May 6, 2022 at 9:57 AM Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us> wrote:
>> I agree that _PG_fini functions as they stand are worthless.
>> What I'm not getting is why we should care enough about that
>> to break just about everybody's extension. Even if unloading
>> extensions were feasible, who would bother?

> Well, if we think that, then we ought to remove the NOT_USED code and
> all the random _PG_fini() stuff that's still floating around.

I think that's exactly what we should do, if it bugs you that stuff
is just sitting there. I see no prospect that we'll ever make it
work, because the question of unhooking from hooks is just the tip
of the iceberg. As an example, what should happen with any custom
GUCs the module has defined? Dropping their values might not be
very nice, but if we leave them around then the next LOAD (if any)
will see a conflict. Another fun question is whether it's ever
safe to unload a module that was preloaded by the postmaster.

In short, this seems like a can of very wriggly worms, with not
a lot of benefit that would ensue from opening it.

regards, tom lane

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