Re: [ADMIN] 9.5 new setting "cluster name" and logging

From: Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>
To: Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com>
Cc: Stephen Frost <sfrost(at)snowman(dot)net>, Thomas Munro <thomas(dot)munro(at)enterprisedb(dot)com>, Andres Freund <andres(at)anarazel(dot)de>, Evan Rempel <erempel(at)uvic(dot)ca>, "pgsql-admin(at)postgresql(dot)org" <pgsql-admin(at)postgresql(dot)org>, Pg Hackers <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: [ADMIN] 9.5 new setting "cluster name" and logging
Date: 2016-10-18 18:47:53
Message-ID: 27743.1476816473@sss.pgh.pa.us
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Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com> writes:
> On Mon, Oct 17, 2016 at 6:24 PM, Stephen Frost <sfrost(at)snowman(dot)net> wrote:
>> I'm with Thomas on this and I disagree that the "csvlog bloat" argument
>> has merit. If we're worried about bloat in csv then we should provide a
>> way for users to control what goes into the csvlog, not argue that
>> something which is clearly useful be excluded.

> I agree, but I think if we do that it would be highly desirable do
> something to make the format discoverable. For example, at the
> beginning of each file and whenever the format changes, we write some
> kind of unmistakable header line into the file identifying what fields
> will be present on each line thereafter. It's undesirable for log
> analysis tools to need to contain logic that tries (imperfectly, no
> doubt) to reverse-engineer the field list.

Automatic "csv header" at the start of each logfile, perhaps? And
force a logfile switch if it changes.

regards, tom lane

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