From: | Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us> |
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To: | Alvaro Herrera <alvherre(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com> |
Cc: | Stephen Frost <sfrost(at)snowman(dot)net>, Andres Freund <andres(at)anarazel(dot)de>, Christoph Berg <myon(at)debian(dot)org>, PostgreSQL Hackers <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org>, Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com> |
Subject: | Re: fsync-pgdata-on-recovery tries to write to more files than previously |
Date: | 2015-05-25 20:21:51 |
Message-ID: | 26810.1432585311@sss.pgh.pa.us |
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Alvaro Herrera <alvherre(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com> writes:
> Tom Lane wrote:
>> Well, that opens us to errors of omission, ie failing to fsync things we
>> should have. Maybe that's an okay risk, but personally I'd judge that
>> "fsync everything and ignore (some?) errors" is probably a more robust
>> approach over time.
> How is it possible to make errors of omission? The list of directories
> in initdb is the complete set of directories that are created for a
> newly-initdb'd database, no? Surely there can't be a database that
> contains vital directories that are not created there? See "subdirs"
> static in initdb.c.
Easy: all you need is to suppose that some of the plain files at top level
of $PGDATA ought to be fsync'd. (I'm fairly sure for example that we took
steps awhile back to force postmaster.pid to be fsync'd.) If there is a
distinction between the fsync requirements of top-level files and
everything else, it is completely accidental and not to be relied on.
And from the other direction, where exactly is it written that
distros/users will only create problematic files at the top level of
$PGDATA? I'd have zero confidence in such an assertion applied to
tablespace directories, for sure.
regards, tom lane
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