Re: [GENERAL] Performance of full outer join in 8.3

From: Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>
To: Greg Stark <stark(at)enterprisedb(dot)com>
Cc: Andrew Dunstan <andrew(at)dunslane(dot)net>, Hannu Krosing <hannu(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com>, Simon Riggs <simon(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com>, Christian Schröder <cs(at)deriva(dot)de>, pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org
Subject: Re: [GENERAL] Performance of full outer join in 8.3
Date: 2009-04-18 21:41:21
Message-ID: 23669.1240090881@sss.pgh.pa.us
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Greg Stark <stark(at)enterprisedb(dot)com> writes:
> On Sat, Apr 18, 2009 at 1:32 PM, Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us> wrote:
>> I'm inclined to think that some sort of fuzzy examination of EXPLAIN
>> output (in this example, "are there constant-comparison conditions in
>> the relation scans?") might do the job, but I'm not sure how we'd
>> go about that.

> If we just removed all the costs and other metrics from the explain
> plan and verified that the plan structure was the same would you be
> happy with that? It would still be work to maintain every time the
> planner changed.

> I suppose if we had explain-to-a-table then we could run explain and
> then run an sql query to verify the specific properties we were
> looking for.

> A similar thing could be done with xml if we had powerful enough xml
> predicates but we have a lot more sql skills in-house than xml.

Yeah, I suspect the only really good answers involve the ability to
apply programmable checks to the EXPLAIN output. A SQL-based solution
shouldn't need any external moving parts, whereas analyzing XML output
presumably would.

I guess then one criterion for whether you've built a good output
definition for explain-to-table is whether it's feasible to check this
type of question using SQL predicates.

regards, tom lane

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