| From: | Joe Conway <mail(at)joeconway(dot)com> |
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| To: | Bruce Momjian <bruce(at)momjian(dot)us> |
| Cc: | Masahiko Sawada <sawada(dot)mshk(at)gmail(dot)com>, Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com>, Tomas Vondra <tomas(dot)vondra(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com>, Antonin Houska <ah(at)cybertec(dot)at>, Haribabu Kommi <kommi(dot)haribabu(at)gmail(dot)com>, "Moon, Insung" <Moon_Insung_i3(at)lab(dot)ntt(dot)co(dot)jp>, Ibrar Ahmed <ibrar(dot)ahmad(at)gmail(dot)com>, PostgreSQL-development <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org> |
| Subject: | Re: [Proposal] Table-level Transparent Data Encryption (TDE) and Key Management Service (KMS) |
| Date: | 2019-06-16 16:45:13 |
| Message-ID: | 23360142-9a1f-95aa-f1ab-758b10408373@joeconway.com |
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On 6/16/19 9:46 AM, Bruce Momjian wrote:
> On Sun, Jun 16, 2019 at 09:45:09AM -0400, Bruce Momjian wrote:
>> On Sun, Jun 16, 2019 at 07:07:20AM -0400, Joe Conway wrote:
>> > And although I'm not proposing this for the first implementation, yet
>> > another reason is I might want to additionally control "transparent
>> > access" to data based on who is logged in. That could be done by
>> > layering an additional key on top of the per-tablespace key for example.
>> >
>> > The bottom line in my mind is encrypting the entire database with a
>> > single key is not much different/better than using filesystem
>> > encryption, so I'm not sure it is worth the effort and complexity to get
>> > that capability. I think having the ability to encrypt at the tablespace
>> > level adds a lot of capability for minimal extra complexity.
>>
>> I disagree.
>
> I will add that OpenSSL has been removing features and compatibility
> because the added complexity had hidden exploits that they could not
> have anticipated.
Sorry but I'm not buying it.
Joe
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