From: | Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us> |
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To: | "Simon Riggs" <simon(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com> |
Cc: | pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org |
Subject: | Re: Minor changes to Recovery related code |
Date: | 2007-03-30 20:34:23 |
Message-ID: | 23242.1175286863@sss.pgh.pa.us |
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"Simon Riggs" <simon(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com> writes:
> I'd like to make the following changes to recovery related code over the
> next few days/weeks. If anybody insists I do this by freeze or not at
> all, then I'll submit patches for 1,3,4,5,10 before Saturday night. I'd
> rather take a bit more time and do this in one drop and there are some
> code dependencies between these changes and other patches from
> Koichi-san and myself.
Well, I've got a proposal for a pg_proc change that I haven't even started
coding yet, so personally I won't hold you to having the patch submitted
as long as the design is agreed to before feature freeze. However:
> 2. pg_stop_backup() should wait until all archive files are safely
> archived before returning
Not sure I agree with that one. If it fails, you can't tell whether the
action is done and it failed while waiting for the archiver, or if you
need to redo it.
> 6. refactor recovery.conf so that it uses a GUC-like parser
I would suggest that after feature freeze is not the time for code
beautification efforts like this. (I rather doubt that it's worth doing
at all actually, but definitely not now.)
> 7. refactor all xlog _desc routines into one module, so these can be
> more easily used by xlogviewer utility
Even more so.
> 8. get xlogviewer utility a freshen-up so it can be part of main
> release, possibly including further refactoring of xlog.c
This is not happening for 8.3, either.
> 10. Changes to ensure WAL-avoiding operations and hot backups cannot be
> executed simultaneously. One of these two options, ISTM:
> b) Introduce a new parameter, archive_mode = on | off that can only be
> set at server start. If archive_mode = on then XLogArchivingActive();
> archiving only takes place when archive_command is not ''. This allows
> archive_command to be changed while server running, yet without any
> danger from WAL-avoiding operations.
I think I'd go with (b) since a lot of people felt it should've been
like that from the beginning, and found the magic "empty string"
behavior confusing.
> [7 & 8 would be complete by about 5-6 weeks from now. Others much
> earlier]
We are hoping to go beta in less time than that. While I'm willing to
cut a little slack, anything you can't submit before about mid-April
is not going to make it into 8.3.
regards, tom lane
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