Re: A new mailing list for PG Day France ?

From: Damien Clochard <damien(at)dalibo(dot)info>
To: Magnus Hagander <magnus(at)hagander(dot)net>
Cc: Bruce Momjian <bruce(at)momjian(dot)us>, PostgreSQL WWW <pgsql-www(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: A new mailing list for PG Day France ?
Date: 2021-11-23 15:15:00
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Le 20.11.2021 10:21, Magnus Hagander a écrit :
> On Thu, Nov 18, 2021, 18:25 Bruce Momjian <bruce(at)momjian(dot)us> wrote:
>
>> On Fri, Nov 12, 2021 at 04:08:08PM +0100, Damien Clochard wrote:
>>> Hi everyone !
>>>
>>> ( I'm not sure this is the right place for this request, if not
>> feel free to
>>> redirect me to the appropriate channel )
>>>
>>> The PG Day France is the main French-Speaking PostgreSQL event
>> since 2008.
>>> The conference is organized by volunteers using a mailing list
>> hosted on
>>> the postgresql.fr [1] plateform with a mailman2 instance (
>>> https://listes.postgresql.fr ). This mailman service is now very
>> old and we
>>> (the PGFR web administrators) are thinking about shutting down it
>>> progressively.
>>>
>>> My question here is : Do you think that the PG Day France mailing
>> list could
>>> be hosted on lists.postgresql.org [2] ?
>>
>> I don't think it makes sense to be creating community mailing lists
>> for
>> this purpose since there is so much overhead to their creation. I
>> think
>> you are better using an email service.
>
> I like you I don't see any particular proven with doing that - the
> overhead of creating a new list is very small in the list system.
>
> However, right now that would be a problem with the archives. Our
> pglister system fully supports multi domains so we would preferably
> set up something like @lists.postgresql.fr [3] there (because I assume
> you'd be interested in any other lists that are hosted there as well?)
> . But our archives don't support this, and would generate collissions.
> So unless you'd want to run your own archives separately from the main
> ones, that functionality would have to be added first (which is on the
> list of things we want already, but hasn't been done yet)
>

Bruce, Magnus,

Thanks for your answers.

To be clear, we're not asking for multi-domain support and we are not in
capacity of hosting our own pglister instance. However we are ok with
changing the address of the PG Day France mailing list and using the
postgresql.org domain. Something like pgdayfr(at)postgresql(dot)org or
pgfr-pgdayfr(at)postgresql(dot)org would be fine.

We are currently hosting a dozen of mailing lists ( with 5 being really
active ) but most of them won't be candidate to be hosted on
postgresql.org for various reasons. Right now the PG Day France mailing
is the only one we want to migrate. We may ask for a second one later
(maybe the PGFR association members list...) but that's about it, we're
not going to flood the pglister system with french lists ;-)

That being said, we're also consedering other options, especially
migrating to a well-known French open-source mailinglist provider called
framalistes.org. We thought of asking here first because it would be
nice to host the PG Day France list here, but if that's not possible,
that's not a problem at all !

Thanks the time you dedicate to the pg.org infa !

--
Damien Clochard

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