Re: pgsql: Add relallfrozen to pg_class

From: Álvaro Herrera <alvherre(at)alvh(dot)no-ip(dot)org>
To: Melanie Plageman <melanieplageman(at)gmail(dot)com>
Cc: pgsql-committers(at)lists(dot)postgresql(dot)org
Subject: Re: pgsql: Add relallfrozen to pg_class
Date: 2025-03-03 16:44:54
Message-ID: 202503031644.nihftaytey2b@alvherre.pgsql
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On 2025-Mar-03, Melanie Plageman wrote:

> Add relallfrozen to pg_class
>
> Add relallfrozen, an estimate of the number of pages marked all-frozen
> in the visibility map.
>
> pg_class already has relallvisible, an estimate of the number of pages
> in the relation marked all-visible in the visibility map. This is used
> primarily for planning.
>
> relallfrozen, together with relallvisible, is useful for estimating the
> outstanding number of all-visible but not all-frozen pages in the
> relation for the purposes of scheduling manual VACUUMs and tuning vacuum
> freeze parameters.

I'm confused about this. Why was the new value added to pg_class
instead of to the pgstat system? I don't think relallvisible is a good
precedent, because as you write here, that one is used for planning,
which has different requirements. For vacuuming metrics we rely on
pgstat.

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