Re: Backporting BackgroundPsql

From: Andres Freund <andres(at)anarazel(dot)de>
To: Heikki Linnakangas <hlinnaka(at)iki(dot)fi>
Cc: PostgreSQL Hackers <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org>, Daniel Gustafsson <daniel(at)yesql(dot)se>, Andrew Dunstan <andrew(at)dunslane(dot)net>, Melanie Plageman <melanieplageman(at)gmail(dot)com>, Amit Kapila <amit(dot)kapila16(at)gmail(dot)com>, Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>, Mikael Kjellström <mikael(dot)kjellstrom(at)gmail(dot)com>
Subject: Re: Backporting BackgroundPsql
Date: 2024-06-25 11:40:38
Message-ID: 20240625114038.jzd2g52ijnfhtfp7@alap3.anarazel.de
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Hi,

On 2024-06-25 13:26:23 +0300, Heikki Linnakangas wrote:
> While fixing a recent bug on visibility on a standby [1], I wrote a
> regression test that uses BackgroundPsql to run some queries in a
> long-running psql session. The problem is that that was refactored in v17,
> commit 664d757531. The test I wrote for v17 doesn't work as it is on
> backbranches. Options:
>
> 1. Write the new test differently on backbranches. Before 664d757531, the
> test needs to work a lot harder to use the background psql session, calling
> pump() etc. That's doable, but as noted in the discussion that led to
> 664d757531, it's laborious and error-prone.
>
> 2. Backport commit 664d757531. This might break out-of-tree perl tests that
> use the background_psql() function. I don't know if any such tests exist,
> and they would need to be changed for v17 anyway, so that seems acceptable.
> Anyone aware of any extensions using the perl test modules?
>
> 3. Backport commit 664d757531, but keep the existing background_psql()
> function unchanged. Add a different constructor to get the v17-style
> BackgroundPsql session, something like "$node->background_psql_new()".
>
> I'm leaning towards 3. We might need to backport more perl tests that use
> background_psql() in the future, backporting the test module will make that
> easier.
>
> Thoughts?

Yes, I've wished for this a couple times. I think 2 or 3 would be reasonable.
I think 1) often just leads to either tests not being written or being
fragile...

Greetings,

Andres Freund

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