| From: | Andres Freund <andres(at)anarazel(dot)de> | 
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| To: | Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com> | 
| Cc: | Andy Fan <zhihuifan1213(at)163(dot)com>, PostgreSQL Hackers <pgsql-hackers(at)lists(dot)postgresql(dot)org>, Thomas Munro <tmunro(at)postgresql(dot)org> | 
| Subject: | Re: the s_lock_stuck on perform_spin_delay | 
| Date: | 2024-01-05 19:33:18 | 
| Message-ID: | 20240105193318.vkfvs76uazgaufin@awork3.anarazel.de | 
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Hi,
On 2024-01-05 14:19:23 -0500, Robert Haas wrote:
> On Fri, Jan 5, 2024 at 2:11 PM Andres Freund <andres(at)anarazel(dot)de> wrote:
> > I see it fairly regularly. Including finding several related bugs that lead to
> > stuck systems last year (signal handlers are a menace).
> 
> In that case, I think this proposal is dead. I can't personally
> testify to this code being a force for good, but it sounds like you
> can. So be it!
I think the proposal to make it a WARNING shouldn't go anywhere, but I think
there are several improvements that could come out of this discussion:
- assertion checks against doing dangerous stuff
- compile time help for detecting bad stuff without hitting it at runtime
- make the stuck lock message more informative, e.g. by including the length
  of time the lock was stuck for
- make sure that interrupts can't trigger the stuck lock much quicker, which
  afaict can happen today
Greetings,
Andres Freund
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