Re: PG 16 draft release notes ready

From: Andres Freund <andres(at)anarazel(dot)de>
To: Bruce Momjian <bruce(at)momjian(dot)us>
Cc: PostgreSQL-development <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: PG 16 draft release notes ready
Date: 2023-05-22 17:59:36
Message-ID: 20230522175936.uprugkqv6aqkkmrt@awork3.anarazel.de
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Hi,

On 2023-05-21 22:46:58 -0400, Bruce Momjian wrote:
> > Looking through the release notes, I didn't see an entry for
> >
> > commit c6e0fe1f2a08505544c410f613839664eea9eb21
> > Author: David Rowley <drowley(at)postgresql(dot)org>
> > Date: 2022-08-29 17:15:00 +1200
> >
> > Improve performance of and reduce overheads of memory management
> >
> > even though I think that's one of the more impactful improvements. What was
> > the reason for leaving that out?
>
> If you read my previous email:
>
> > For the above two items, I mention items that would change user
> > like new features or changes that are significant enough that they would
> > change user behavior. For example, if a new join method increases
> > performance by 5x, that could change user behavior. Based on the quoted
> > numbers above, I didn't think "hash now faster" would be appropriate to
> > mention. Right?

I continue, as in past releases, to think that this is a bad policy. For
existing workloads performance improvements are commonly a more convincing
reason to upgrade than new features - they allow users to scale the workload
further, without needing application changes.

Of course there are performance improvement that are too miniscule to be worth
mentioning, but it's not a common case.

And here it's not just performance, but also memory usage, including steady
state memory usage.

> I can see this item as a big win, but I don't know how to describe it in a way
> that is helpful for the user to know.

In doubt the subject of the commit would just work IMO.

Greetings,

Andres Freund

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