From: | Kyotaro Horiguchi <horikyota(dot)ntt(at)gmail(dot)com> |
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To: | amit(dot)kapila16(at)gmail(dot)com |
Cc: | kuroda(dot)hayato(at)fujitsu(dot)com, smithpb2250(at)gmail(dot)com, osumi(dot)takamichi(at)fujitsu(dot)com, shiy(dot)fnst(at)fujitsu(dot)com, vignesh21(at)gmail(dot)com, shveta(dot)malik(at)gmail(dot)com, dilipbalaut(at)gmail(dot)com, euler(at)eulerto(dot)com, m(dot)melihmutlu(at)gmail(dot)com, andres(at)anarazel(dot)de, marcos(at)f10(dot)com(dot)br, pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org |
Subject: | Re: Time delayed LR (WAS Re: logical replication restrictions) |
Date: | 2023-02-10 01:03:15 |
Message-ID: | 20230210.100315.208317849795532296.horikyota.ntt@gmail.com |
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Mmm. A part of the previous mail have gone anywhere for a uncertain
reason and placed by a mysterious blank lines...
At Fri, 10 Feb 2023 09:57:22 +0900 (JST), Kyotaro Horiguchi <horikyota(dot)ntt(at)gmail(dot)com> wrote in
> At Thu, 9 Feb 2023 13:48:52 +0530, Amit Kapila <amit(dot)kapila16(at)gmail(dot)com> wrote in
> > On Thu, Feb 9, 2023 at 10:45 AM Kyotaro Horiguchi
> > <horikyota(dot)ntt(at)gmail(dot)com> wrote:
> > >
> > > At Wed, 8 Feb 2023 09:03:03 +0000, "Hayato Kuroda (Fujitsu)" <kuroda(dot)hayato(at)fujitsu(dot)com> wrote in
> > > > Thank you for reviewing! PSA new version.
> > >
> > > + if (statusinterval_ms > 0 && diffms > statusinterval_ms)
> > >
> > > The next expected feedback time is measured from the last status
> > > report. Thus, it seems to me this may suppress feedbacks from being
> > > sent for an unexpectedly long time especially when min_apply_delay is
> > > shorter than wal_r_s_interval.
> > >
> >
> > I think the minimum time before we send any feedback during the wait
> > is wal_r_s_interval. Now, I think if there is no transaction for a
> > long time before we get a new transaction, there should be keep-alive
> > messages in between which would allow us to send feedback at regular
> > intervals (wal_receiver_status_interval). So, I think we should be
>
> Right.
>
> > able to send feedback in less than 2 * wal_receiver_status_interval
> > unless wal_sender/receiver timeout is very large and there is a very
> > low volume of transactions. Now, we can try to send the feedback
>
> We have suffered this kind of feedback silence many times. Thus I
> don't want to rely on luck here. I had in mind of exposing last_send
> itself or providing interval-calclation function to the logic.
>
> > before we start waiting or maybe after every
> > wal_receiver_status_interval / 2 but I think that will lead to more
> > spurious feedback messages than we get the benefit from them.
Agreed. I think we dont want to do that.
regards.
--
Kyotaro Horiguchi
NTT Open Source Software Center
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