Re: predefined role(s) for VACUUM and ANALYZE

From: Nathan Bossart <nathandbossart(at)gmail(dot)com>
To: Michael Paquier <michael(at)paquier(dot)xyz>
Cc: Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com>, Stephen Frost <sfrost(at)snowman(dot)net>, Bharath Rupireddy <bharath(dot)rupireddyforpostgres(at)gmail(dot)com>, "David G(dot) Johnston" <david(dot)g(dot)johnston(at)gmail(dot)com>, Kyotaro Horiguchi <horikyota(dot)ntt(at)gmail(dot)com>, "pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org" <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: predefined role(s) for VACUUM and ANALYZE
Date: 2022-09-20 23:50:10
Message-ID: 20220920235010.GB378596@nathanxps13
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On Tue, Sep 20, 2022 at 04:31:17PM -0700, Nathan Bossart wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 20, 2022 at 11:05:33AM -0700, Nathan Bossart wrote:
>> On Tue, Sep 20, 2022 at 02:45:52PM +0900, Michael Paquier wrote:
>>> Any impact for the column sizes of the catalogs holding ACL
>>> information? Just asking while browsing the patch set.
>>
>> Since each aclitem requires 16 bytes instead of 12, I assume so. However,
>> in my testing, I hit a "row is too big" error with the same number of
>> aclitems in a pg_class row before and after the change. I might be missing
>> something in my patch, or maybe I am misunderstanding how arrays of
>> aclitems are stored on disk.
>
> Ah, it looks like relacl is compressed. The column is marked "extended,"
> but pg_class doesn't appear to have a TOAST table, so presumably no
> out-of-line storage can be used. I found a couple of threads about this
> [0] [1] [2].

I suppose there is some risk that folks with really long aclitem arrays
might be unable to pg_upgrade to a version with uint64 AclModes, but I
suspect that risk is limited to extreme cases (i.e., multiple thousands of
aclitems). I'm not sure whether that's worth worrying about too much.

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Nathan Bossart
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