From: | Andres Freund <andres(at)anarazel(dot)de> |
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To: | Andrey Borodin <x4mmm(at)yandex-team(dot)ru> |
Cc: | Alvaro Herrera <alvherre(at)alvh(dot)no-ip(dot)org>, Peter Geoghegan <pg(at)bowt(dot)ie>, Michael Paquier <michael(at)paquier(dot)xyz>, Петър Славов <pet(dot)slavov(at)gmail(dot)com>, PostgreSQL mailing lists <pgsql-bugs(at)lists(dot)postgresql(dot)org> |
Subject: | Re: BUG #17485: Records missing from Primary Key index when doing REINDEX INDEX CONCURRENTLY |
Date: | 2022-05-25 04:20:49 |
Message-ID: | 20220525042049.7f24lsduwqujeims@alap3.anarazel.de |
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Hi,
On 2022-05-25 09:00:47 +0500, Andrey Borodin wrote:
> > On 25 May 2022, at 00:01, Andres Freund <andres(at)anarazel(dot)de> wrote:
> >
> >>> On 24 May 2022, at 23:15, Andres Freund <andres(at)anarazel(dot)de> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> I suspect the problem might be related to pruning done during the validation
> >>> scan. Once PROC_IN_SAFE_IC is set, the backend itself will not preserve tids
> >>> its own snapshot might need. Which will wreak havoc during the validation
> >>> scan.
> >>
> >> I observe that removing PROC_IN_SAFE_IC for index_validate() fixes tests.
> >> But why it's not a problem for index_build() scan?
> >
> > I now suspect it's a problem for both, just more visible for index_validate().
> No, I understood now. index_build() in CIC can be safely replaced by
> index_build_empty().
I'm not convinced that that is true. I think at least for stuff like indexes
used in constraints (unique or exclusion) we need to do something like the
current approach.
But more importantly, there's a difference between not inserting any index
entries, and inserting entries based on a essentially corrupted
snapshot. Using a too old snapshot (which is what we have here) could lead to
all sorts of oddities when following HOT chains etc. Which might end up
inserting *too much* into the index, I think.
> So, can we leave the feature enabled for all the process besides index
> validation? We don't seem to need a valid snapshot in CIC anywhere else. Or
> it's safer to revert whole commit?
I doubt it's safe in the other places either. We can't just do a table scan,
which expects to be passed a valid snapshot, with a broken snapshot, and
expect no problems. At the very least I expect there to be a potential of
spurious warnings / errors.
Greetings,
Andres Freund
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