From: | Stephen Frost <sfrost(at)snowman(dot)net> |
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To: | Daniel Gustafsson <daniel(at)yesql(dot)se> |
Cc: | Peter Eisentraut <peter(dot)eisentraut(at)enterprisedb(dot)com>, Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com>, Andres Freund <andres(at)anarazel(dot)de>, Julien Rouhaud <rjuju123(at)gmail(dot)com>, Jacob Champion <pchampion(at)vmware(dot)com>, "pgsql-hackers(at)lists(dot)postgresql(dot)org" <pgsql-hackers(at)lists(dot)postgresql(dot)org>, "hlinnaka(at)iki(dot)fi" <hlinnaka(at)iki(dot)fi>, "andrew(dot)dunstan(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com" <andrew(dot)dunstan(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com>, "michael(at)paquier(dot)xyz" <michael(at)paquier(dot)xyz>, "thomas(dot)munro(at)gmail(dot)com" <thomas(dot)munro(at)gmail(dot)com> |
Subject: | Re: Support for NSS as a libpq TLS backend |
Date: | 2022-02-03 18:43:28 |
Message-ID: | 20220203184328.GB10577@tamriel.snowman.net |
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Greetings,
* Daniel Gustafsson (daniel(at)yesql(dot)se) wrote:
> > On 3 Feb 2022, at 15:07, Peter Eisentraut <peter(dot)eisentraut(at)enterprisedb(dot)com> wrote:
> >
> > On 28.01.22 15:30, Robert Haas wrote:
> >> I would really, really like to have an alternative to OpenSSL for PG.
> >
> > What are the reasons people want that? With OpenSSL 3, the main reasons -- license and FIPS support -- have gone away.
>
> At least it will go away when OpenSSL 3 is FIPS certified, which is yet to
> happen (submitted, not processed).
>
> I see quite a few valid reasons to want an alternative, a few off the top of my
> head include:
>
> - Using trust stores like Keychain on macOS with Secure Transport. There is
> AFAIK something similar on Windows and NSS has it's certificate databases.
> Especially on client side libpq it would be quite nice to integrate with where
> certificates already are rather than rely on files on disks.
>
> - Not having to install OpenSSL, Schannel and Secure Transport would make life
> easier for packagers.
>
> - Simply having an alternative. The OpenSSL projects recent venture into
> writing transport protocols have made a lot of people worried over their
> bandwidth for fixing and supporting core features.
>
> Just my $0.02, everyones mileage varies on these.
Yeah, agreed on all of these.
Thanks,
Stephen
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