From: | Bruce Momjian <bruce(at)momjian(dot)us> |
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To: | Christoph Berg <myon(at)debian(dot)org> |
Cc: | Julien Rouhaud <rjuju123(at)gmail(dot)com>, Pavel Stehule <pavel(dot)stehule(at)gmail(dot)com>, Kyotaro Horiguchi <horikyota(dot)ntt(at)gmail(dot)com>, Magnus Hagander <magnus(at)hagander(dot)net>, Fujii Masao <masao(dot)fujii(at)oss(dot)nttdata(dot)com>, Michael Paquier <michael(at)paquier(dot)xyz>, Andres Freund <andres(at)anarazel(dot)de>, Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>, Alvaro Herrera <alvherre(at)alvh(dot)no-ip(dot)org>, Stephen Frost <sfrost(at)snowman(dot)net>, Peter Eisentraut <peter(dot)eisentraut(at)enterprisedb(dot)com>, PostgreSQL Hackers <pgsql-hackers(at)lists(dot)postgresql(dot)org> |
Subject: | Re: compute_query_id and pg_stat_statements |
Date: | 2021-05-13 17:59:47 |
Message-ID: | 20210513175947.GP11075@momjian.us |
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On Thu, May 13, 2021 at 07:39:45PM +0200, Christoph Berg wrote:
> Re: Bruce Momjian
> > Well, now that we have clear warnings when it is misconfigured,
> > especially when querying the pg_stat_statements view, are these
> > complaints still valid? Also, how is modifying
> > shared_preload_libraries zero-config, but modifying
> > shared_preload_libraries and compute_query_id a huge burden?
>
> It's zero-config in the sense that if you want to have
> pg_stat_statements, loading that module via shared_preload_libraries
> is just natural.
>
> Having to set compute_query_id isn't natural. It's a setting with a
> completely different name, and the connection of pg_stat_statements to
> compute_query_id isn't obvious.
>
> The reasoning with "we have warnings and stuff" might be ok if
> pg_stat_statements were a new thing, but it has worked via
> shared_preload_libraries only for the last decade, and requiring
> something extra will confuse probably every single user of
> pg_stat_statements out there.
>
> Perhaps worse, note that these warnings will likely first be seen by
> the end users of databases, not by the admin performing the initial
> setup or upgrade, who will not be able to fix the problem themselves.
Well, but doing this extra configuration, the query id shows up in a lot
more places. I can't imagine how this could be done cleanly without
requiring extra configuration, unless the query_id computation was
cheaper to compute and we could enable it by default.
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