From: | Kyotaro Horiguchi <horikyota(dot)ntt(at)gmail(dot)com> |
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To: | rjuju123(at)gmail(dot)com |
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Subject: | Re: compute_query_id and pg_stat_statements |
Date: | 2021-05-12 05:33:35 |
Message-ID: | 20210512.143335.1053382893089496881.horikyota.ntt@gmail.com |
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At Wed, 12 May 2021 10:42:01 +0800, Julien Rouhaud <rjuju123(at)gmail(dot)com> wrote in
> Hello Horiguchi-san,
>
> On Wed, May 12, 2021 at 11:08:36AM +0900, Kyotaro Horiguchi wrote:
> >
> > If we look it in pg_settings, it shows the current value and the value
> > at boot-time. So I'm fine with that behavior.
> >
> > However, IMHO, I doubt the necessity of "on". Assuming that we require
> > any module that wants query-id to call queryIdWanted() at any time
> > after each process startup (or it could be inherited to children), I
> > think only "auto" and "off" are enough for the variable.
>
> I don't think that this approach would cope well for people who want a queryid
> without pg_stat_statements or such. Since the queryid can now be found in
> pg_stat_activity, EXPLAIN output or the logs I think it's entirely reasonable
> to allow users to benefit from that even if they don't install additional
> module.
Ah, I missed that case. And we are wanting to use pg_stat_statements
with (almost) zero-config? How about the following behavior?
Setting query_id_provider to 'none' means we don't calculate query-id
by default. However, if queryIdWante() is called, the default provider
is set up and starts calculating query id.
Setting query_id_provider to something else means the user wants
query-id calcualted using the provider. Setting 'default' is
equivalent to setting compute_query_id to 'on'.
There might be a case where a user sets query_id_provider to
non-'none' but don't want have query-id calculated, but it can be said
a kind of mis-configuration?
> > Thinking in
> > this line, the variable is a subset of a GUC variable to specify the
> > name of a query-id provider (as Andres suggested upthread), and I
> > think it would work better in future.
> >
> > So for now I propose that we have a variable query_id_provider that
> > has only 'default' and 'none' as the domain.
>
> I think this would be a mistake to do that, as it would mean that we don't
> officially support alternative queryid provider.
Ok, if we want to support alternative providers from the first, we
need to actually write the loader code for query-id providers. It
would not be so hard?, but it might not be suitable to this stage so I
proposed that to get rid of needing such complexity for now.
(Anyway I prefer to load query-id provider as a dynamically loadable
module rather than hook-function.)
> > We can later expand it
> > so that any other query-id provider modules can be loaded without
> > chaning the interface.
>
> The GUC itself may not change, but third-party queryid provider would probably
> need changes as the new entry point will be dedicated to compute a queryid
> only, while third-party plugins may do more than that in their
> post_parse_analyze_hook. And also users will have to change their
I don't think it is not that a problem. Even if any third-party
extension is having query-id generator by itself, in most cases it
would be a copy of JumbleQuery in case of pg_stat_statement is not
loaded and now it is moved in-core as 'default' provider. What the
exntension needs to be done is just ripping out the copied generator
code. I guess...
> configuration to use that new interface, and additionally the module may now
> have to be removed from shared_preload_libraries. Overall, it doesn't seem to
> me that it would make users' life easier.
Why the third-party module need to be removed from
shared_preload_libraries? The module can stay as a preloaded shared
library but just no longer need to have its own query-id provider
since it is provided in-core. If the extension required a specific
provider, the developer need to make it a loadable module and users
need to specify the provider module explicitly. I don't think that is
not a problem but if we wanted to make it easier, we can let users
free from that step by allowing 'auto' for query-id-provider to load
any module by the first extension.
So, for example, how about the following interface?
GUC query_id_provider:
- 'none' : query_id is not calculated, don't allow loading external
generator module.
- 'default' : use default provider and calculate query-id.
- '<provider-name>' : use the provider and calculate query-id using it.
- 'auto' : query_id is not calculated, but allow to load query-id
provider if queryIdWanted() is called.
# of course 'auto' and 'default' are inhibited as the provier name.
- core function bool queryIdWanted(char *provider_name, bool use_existing)
Allows extensions to request to load a provider if not yet, then
start calculating query-id. Returns true if the request is accepted.
provider_name :
- 'default' or '<provider-name>': requests the provider to be loaded
and start calculating query-id. Refuse the request if 'none' is
set to query_id_provider.
use_existing: Set true to allow using a provider already loaded.
Otherwise refuses the request if any other provider than
prvoder_name is already loaded.
In most cases users set query_id_provider to 'auto' and extensions
call queryIdWanted with ('default', true).
regards.
--
Kyotaro Horiguchi
NTT Open Source Software Center
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