From: | Stephen Frost <sfrost(at)snowman(dot)net> |
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To: | Magnus Hagander <magnus(at)hagander(dot)net> |
Cc: | Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>, Bruce Momjian <bruce(at)momjian(dot)us>, Christoph Berg <myon(at)debian(dot)org>, Peter Eisentraut <peter(dot)eisentraut(at)enterprisedb(dot)com>, Fujii Masao <masao(dot)fujii(at)oss(dot)nttdata(dot)com>, PostgreSQL Developers <pgsql-hackers(at)lists(dot)postgresql(dot)org> |
Subject: | Re: compute_query_id and pg_stat_statements |
Date: | 2021-04-26 17:23:54 |
Message-ID: | 20210426172354.GV20766@tamriel.snowman.net |
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Greetings,
* Magnus Hagander (magnus(at)hagander(dot)net) wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 26, 2021 at 6:56 PM Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us> wrote:
> > Stephen Frost <sfrost(at)snowman(dot)net> writes:
> > > * Bruce Momjian (bruce(at)momjian(dot)us) wrote:
> > >> Techically, pg_stat_statements can turn on compute_query_id when it is
> > >> loaded, even if it is 'off' in postgresql.conf, right? And
> > >> pg_stat_statements would know if an alternate hash method is being used,
> > >> right?
> >
> > > +1 on this approach.
> >
> > That'd make it impossible to turn off or adjust afterwards, wouldn't it?
> > I'm afraid the confusion stemming from that would outweigh any simplicity.
I don't know that it actually would, but ...
> Thatäs why I suggested the three value one. Default to a mode where
> it's automatic, which is what the majority is going to want, but have
> a way to explicitly turn it on.
This is certainly fine with me too, though it seems a bit surprising to
me that we couldn't just figure out what the user actually wants based
on what's installed/running for any given combination.
> > In the end, it's not like this is the first time we've ever made an
> > incompatible change in configuration needs; and it won't be the last
> > either. I don't buy the argument that pg_stat_statements users can't
> > cope with adding the additional setting. (Of course, we should be
> > careful to call it out as an incompatible change in the release notes.)
>
> The fact that we've made changes before that complicated our users
> experience isn't in itself an argument for doing it again though...
I'm generally a proponent of sensible changes across major versions even
if it means that the user has to adjust things, but this seems like a
case where we're punting on something that we really should just be able
to figure out the right answer to and that seems like a step backwards.
Thanks,
Stephen
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