From: | Bruce Momjian <bruce(at)momjian(dot)us> |
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To: | Laurenz Albe <laurenz(dot)albe(at)cybertec(dot)at> |
Cc: | "Campbell, Lance" <lance(at)illinois(dot)edu>, MichaelDBA <MichaelDBA(at)sqlexec(dot)com>, SASIKUMAR Devaraj <sashikumard(at)yahoo(dot)com>, "holger(at)jakobs(dot)com" <holger(at)jakobs(dot)com>, "pgsql-admin(at)lists(dot)postgresql(dot)org" <pgsql-admin(at)lists(dot)postgresql(dot)org> |
Subject: | Re: work_mem |
Date: | 2021-04-02 15:07:36 |
Message-ID: | 20210402150736.GD9270@momjian.us |
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On Fri, Apr 2, 2021 at 04:59:16PM +0200, Laurenz Albe wrote:
> On Fri, 2021-04-02 at 13:31 +0000, Campbell, Lance wrote:
> > It feels like there needs to be work_mem and work_mem_stack_size. When work memory is
> > needed a process “pops” a token off of a stack. When it is done processing it “puts”
> > the token back on the stack. If the stack is empty then don’t allocate memory just
> > write to disk for work_mem.
> >
> > This does two key things:
> >
> > 1) It allows for a real world understanding of how much memory is really needed on a
> > day to day basis. You can track how often a stack is empty. You can also look at the
> > number of temp files to see when work exceeds the work_mem allocation. There is no
> > “art” to setting these values. You can use logical analysis to make choices.
> >
> > 2) This also prevents out of memory issues. You are protecting yourself from extreme loads.
>
> If I get you right, you want another memory limit per session.
>
> I see the point, but then we wouldn't need "work_mem" any more, right?
> What is the point of limiting the memory per plan node if we have an
> overall limit?
>
> In practice, I have never had trouble with "work_mem". I usually follow
> my rule of thumb: max_connections * work_mem + shared_buffers < RAM
>
> While some backend may need more, many will need less. Only bitmaps, hashes
> and sorts are memory hungry.
This blog entry discusses how work_mem might be improved:
https://momjian.us/main/blogs/pgblog/2018.html#December_10_2018
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