From: | Julien Rouhaud <rjuju123(at)gmail(dot)com> |
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To: | Michael Paquier <michael(at)paquier(dot)xyz> |
Cc: | Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>, Georgios <gkokolatos(at)protonmail(dot)com>, Julien Rouhaud <julien(dot)rouhaud(at)free(dot)fr>, PostgreSQL Hackers <pgsql-hackers(at)lists(dot)postgresql(dot)org>, "robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com" <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com> |
Subject: | Re: Shared memory size computation oversight? |
Date: | 2021-03-04 07:23:33 |
Message-ID: | 20210304072333.4yydog47md7cfrda@nol |
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On Thu, Mar 04, 2021 at 04:05:10PM +0900, Michael Paquier wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 04, 2021 at 12:40:52AM +0800, Julien Rouhaud wrote:
> > On Wed, Mar 03, 2021 at 11:23:54AM -0500, Tom Lane wrote:
> >> I have not looked at this patch, but I think the concern is basically that
> >> if we have space-estimation infrastructure that misestimates what it is
> >> supposed to estimate, then if that infrastructure is used to estimate the
> >> size of any of the "big hog" data structures, we might misestimate by
> >> enough that the slop factor wouldn't hide it.
> >
> > Exactly. And now that I looked deeper I can see that multiple estimates are
> > entirely ignoring the padding alignment (e.g. ProcGlobalShmemSize()), which can
> > exceed the 6kB originally estimated by Robert.
>
> We are going to have a hard time catching up all the places that are
> doing an incorrect estimation, and have an even harder time making
> sure that similar errors don't happen in the future. Should we add a
> {add,mul}_shmem_size() to make sure that the size calculated is
> correctly aligned, that uses CACHELINEALIGN before returning the
> result size?
I was also considering adding new (add|mull)_*_size functions to avoid having
too messy code. I'm not terribly happy with xxx_shm_size(), as not all call to
those functions would require an alignment. Maybe (add|mull)shmemalign_size?
But before modifying dozens of calls, should we really fix those or only
increase a bit the "slop factor", or a mix of it?
For instance, I can see that for instance BackendStatusShmemSize() never had
any padding consideration, while others do.
Maybe only fixing contribs, some macro like PredXactListDataSize that already
do a MAXALIGN, SimpleLruShmemSize and hash_estimate_size() would be a short
patch and should significantly improve the estimation.
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