From: | Andres Freund <andres(at)anarazel(dot)de> |
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To: | Tomas Vondra <tomas(dot)vondra(at)enterprisedb(dot)com> |
Cc: | Stephen Frost <sfrost(at)snowman(dot)net>, Thomas Munro <thomas(dot)munro(at)gmail(dot)com>, Jakub Wartak <Jakub(dot)Wartak(at)tomtom(dot)com>, Alvaro Herrera <alvherre(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com>, Tomas Vondra <tomas(dot)vondra(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com>, Dmitry Dolgov <9erthalion6(at)gmail(dot)com>, David Steele <david(at)pgmasters(dot)net>, pgsql-hackers <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org> |
Subject: | Re: WIP: WAL prefetch (another approach) |
Date: | 2021-02-12 04:46:14 |
Message-ID: | 20210212044614.5wqjkjbcmbwzever@alap3.anarazel.de |
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Hi,
On 2021-02-12 00:42:04 +0100, Tomas Vondra wrote:
> Yeah, that's a good point. I think it'd make sense to keep track of recent
> FPIs and skip prefetching such blocks. But how exactly should we implement
> that, how many blocks do we need to track? If you get an FPI, how long
> should we skip prefetching of that block?
>
> I don't think the history needs to be very long, for two reasons. Firstly,
> the usual pattern is that we have FPI + several changes for that block
> shortly after it. Secondly, maintenance_io_concurrency limits this naturally
> - after crossing that, redo should place the FPI into shared buffers,
> allowing us to skip the prefetch.
>
> So I think using maintenance_io_concurrency is sufficient. We might track
> more buffers to allow skipping prefetches of blocks that were evicted from
> shared buffers, but that seems like an overkill.
>
> However, maintenance_io_concurrency can be quite high, so just a simple
> queue is not very suitable - searching it linearly for each block would be
> too expensive. But I think we can use a simple hash table, tracking
> (relfilenode, block, LSN), over-sized to minimize collisions.
>
> Imagine it's a simple array with (2 * maintenance_io_concurrency) elements,
> and whenever we prefetch a block or find an FPI, we simply add the block to
> the array as determined by hash(relfilenode, block)
>
> hashtable[hash(...)] = {relfilenode, block, LSN}
>
> and then when deciding whether to prefetch a block, we look at that one
> position. If the (relfilenode, block) match, we check the LSN and skip the
> prefetch if it's sufficiently recent. Otherwise we prefetch.
I'm a bit doubtful this is really needed at this point. Yes, the
prefetching will do a buffer table lookup - but it's a lookup that
already happens today. And the patch already avoids doing a second
lookup after prefetching (by optimistically caching the last Buffer id,
and re-checking).
I think there's potential for some significant optimization going
forward, but I think it's basically optimization over what we're doing
today. As this is already a nontrivial patch, I'd argue for doing so
separately.
Regards,
Andres
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