From: | Andres Freund <andres(at)anarazel(dot)de> |
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To: | Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us> |
Cc: | pgsql-hackers(at)lists(dot)postgresql(dot)org |
Subject: | Re: Better client reporting for "immediate stop" shutdowns |
Date: | 2020-12-25 23:03:31 |
Message-ID: | 20201225230331.hru3u6obyy6j53tk@alap3.anarazel.de |
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Hi,
On 2020-12-21 16:43:33 -0500, Tom Lane wrote:
> Up to now, if you shut down the database with "pg_ctl stop -m immediate"
> then clients get a scary message claiming that something has crashed,
> because backends can't tell whether the SIGQUIT they got was sent for
> a crash-and-restart situation or because of an immediate-stop command.
+many
> This isn't great from a fit-and-finish perspective, and it occurs to me
> that it's really easy to do better: the postmaster can stick a flag
> into shared memory explaining the reason for SIGQUIT. While we don't
> like the postmaster touching shared memory, there doesn't seem to be
> any need for interlocking or anything like that, so there is no risk
> involved that's greater than those already taken by pmsignal.c.
>
> So, here's a very simple proposed patch. Some issues for possible
> bikeshedding:
> * Up to now, pmsignal.c has only been for child-to-postmaster
> communication, so maybe there is some better place to put the
> support code. I can't think of one though.
Seems fine with me.
> * I chose to report the same message for immediate shutdown as we
> already use for SIGTERM (fast shutdown or pg_terminate_backend()).
> Should it be different, and if so what?
To do better I think we'd have to distinguish the different cases? An
error message like
"terminating connection due to {fast shutdown,immediate shutdown,connection termination} administrator command"
or such could be helpful, but I don't think your patch adds *quite*
enough state?
I'd like to not log all these repeated messages into the server
log. It's quite annoying to have to digg through thousands of lines of
repeated "terminating connection..." lines that add absolutely no
additional information, just because I am shutting down the
server. Similarly, trying to find the reason for a PANIC is often hard
due to all the other messages.
Greetings,
Andres Freund
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