Re: Prevent printing "next step instructions" in initdb and pg_upgrade

From: Bruce Momjian <bruce(at)momjian(dot)us>
To: Magnus Hagander <magnus(at)hagander(dot)net>
Cc: Peter Eisentraut <peter(dot)eisentraut(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com>, PostgreSQL Developers <pgsql-hackers(at)lists(dot)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: Prevent printing "next step instructions" in initdb and pg_upgrade
Date: 2020-11-11 16:42:26
Message-ID: 20201111164226.GJ12947@momjian.us
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On Wed, Nov 11, 2020 at 05:39:10PM +0100, Magnus Hagander wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 11, 2020 at 5:38 PM Bruce Momjian <bruce(at)momjian(dot)us> wrote:
> >
> > On Wed, Nov 11, 2020 at 11:21:22AM -0500, Bruce Momjian wrote:
> > > On Wed, Nov 11, 2020 at 05:11:38PM +0100, Magnus Hagander wrote:
> > > > > In summary, I think the vacuumdb --analyze is now a one-line command,
> > > > > but the delete part can be complex and not easily typed.
> > > >
> > > > I definitely agree to that part -- my argument is that it's more
> > > > complex (or rather, more platform-specific) than can easily be put in
> > > > the script either. If it were to be replaced it wouldn't be withy "a
> > > > command",it would be with instructions basically saying "delete the
> > > > old cluster". Platform specific wrappers (debian, redhat, windows or
> > > > whatever) knows more and could do a more complete job, but trying to
> > > > make all that generic is very complicated.
> > >
> > > Agreed, but I don't see OS-specific instruction on how to delete the
> > > tablespaces as reasonable --- that should be done by pg_upgrade, and we
> > > have had almost no complaints about that.
> >
> > Stepping back, I have always felt there was need for a wrapper program
> > to setup pg_upgrade, and clean up the old cluster on finish, though no
> > one has created such a tool yet.
>
> Sure they have, it's just platform specific.
>
> pg_upgradecluster on debian is a great example :)

Yes, true. Ideally it would be nice to have a cross-platform wrapper
around pg_upgrade.

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