| From: | Bruce Momjian <bruce(at)momjian(dot)us> |
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| To: | Peter Geoghegan <pg(at)bowt(dot)ie> |
| Cc: | Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com>, David Rowley <dgrowleyml(at)gmail(dot)com>, Stephen Frost <sfrost(at)snowman(dot)net>, Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>, Jeff Davis <pgsql(at)j-davis(dot)com>, Alvaro Herrera <alvherre(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com>, Andres Freund <andres(at)anarazel(dot)de>, Justin Pryzby <pryzby(at)telsasoft(dot)com>, Melanie Plageman <melanieplageman(at)gmail(dot)com>, Tomas Vondra <tomas(dot)vondra(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com>, "pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org" <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org> |
| Subject: | Re: Default setting for enable_hashagg_disk |
| Date: | 2020-07-21 20:30:46 |
| Message-ID: | 20200721203046.GA7390@momjian.us |
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On Tue, Jul 14, 2020 at 03:49:40PM -0700, Peter Geoghegan wrote:
> Maybe I missed your point here. The problem is not so much that we'll
> get HashAggs that spill -- there is nothing intrinsically wrong with
> that. While it's true that the I/O pattern is not as sequential as a
> similar group agg + sort, that doesn't seem like the really important
> factor here. The really important factor is that in-memory HashAggs
> can be blazingly fast relative to *any* alternative strategy -- be it
> a HashAgg that spills, or a group aggregate + sort that doesn't spill,
> whatever. We're mostly concerned about keeping the one available fast
> strategy than we are about getting a new, generally slow strategy.
Do we have any data that in-memory HashAggs are "blazingly fast relative
to *any* alternative strategy?" The data I have tested myself and what
I saw from Tomas was that spilling sort or spilling hash are both 2.5x
slower. Are we sure the quoted statement is true?
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