From: | Andres Freund <andres(at)anarazel(dot)de> |
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To: | Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com> |
Cc: | David Rowley <dgrowleyml(at)gmail(dot)com>, Jeff Davis <pgsql(at)j-davis(dot)com>, Justin Pryzby <pryzby(at)telsasoft(dot)com>, Melanie Plageman <melanieplageman(at)gmail(dot)com>, Tomas Vondra <tomas(dot)vondra(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com>, "pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org" <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org> |
Subject: | Re: Default setting for enable_hashagg_disk |
Date: | 2020-06-24 19:36:24 |
Message-ID: | 20200624193624.fsr7lvqzgml2qvei@alap3.anarazel.de |
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Hi,
On 2020-06-24 15:28:47 -0400, Robert Haas wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 24, 2020 at 3:14 PM Andres Freund <andres(at)anarazel(dot)de> wrote:
> > FWIW, my gut feeling is that we'll end up have to separate the
> > "execution time" spilling from using plain work mem, because it'll
> > trigger spilling too often. E.g. if the plan isn't expected to spill,
> > only spill at 10 x work_mem or something like that. Or we'll need
> > better management of temp file data when there's plenty memory
> > available.
>
> So, I don't think we can wire in a constant like 10x. That's really
> unprincipled and I think it's a bad idea. What we could do, though, is
> replace the existing Boolean-valued GUC with a new GUC that controls
> the size at which the aggregate spills. The default could be -1,
> meaning work_mem, but a user could configure a larger value if desired
> (presumably, we would just treat a value smaller than work_mem as
> work_mem, and document the same).
To be clear, I wasn't actually thinking of hard-coding 10x, but having a
config option that specifies a factor of work_mem. A factor seems better
because it'll work reasonably for different values of work_mem, whereas
a concrete size wouldn't.
> I think that's actually pretty appealing. Separating the memory we
> plan to use from the memory we're willing to use before spilling seems
> like a good idea in general, and I think we should probably also do it
> in other places - like sorts.
Indeed. And then perhaps we could eventually add some reporting /
monitoring infrastructure for the cases where plan time and execution
time memory estimate/usage widely differs.
Greetings,
Andres Freund
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