Re: backup manifests

From: Andres Freund <andres(at)anarazel(dot)de>
To: Stephen Frost <sfrost(at)snowman(dot)net>
Cc: Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com>, Amit Kapila <amit(dot)kapila16(at)gmail(dot)com>, Suraj Kharage <suraj(dot)kharage(at)enterprisedb(dot)com>, tushar <tushar(dot)ahuja(at)enterprisedb(dot)com>, Rajkumar Raghuwanshi <rajkumar(dot)raghuwanshi(at)enterprisedb(dot)com>, Rushabh Lathia <rushabh(dot)lathia(at)gmail(dot)com>, Tels <nospam-pg-abuse(at)bloodgate(dot)com>, David Steele <david(at)pgmasters(dot)net>, Andrew Dunstan <andrew(dot)dunstan(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com>, PostgreSQL Hackers <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org>, Jeevan Chalke <jeevan(dot)chalke(at)enterprisedb(dot)com>, vignesh C <vignesh21(at)gmail(dot)com>
Subject: Re: backup manifests
Date: 2020-03-27 22:07:23
Message-ID: 20200327220723.zq4eakpkjsilli3j@alap3.anarazel.de
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Hi,

On 2020-03-27 16:57:46 -0400, Stephen Frost wrote:
> I really don't know what to say to this. WAL is absolutely critical to
> a backup being valid. pgBackRest doesn't have a way to *just* validate
> a backup today, unfortunately, but we're planning to support it in the
> future and we will absolutely include in that validation checking all of
> the WAL that's part of the backup.

Could you please address the fact that just about everybody uses base
backups + later WAL to have a short data loss window? Integrating the
WAL files necessary to make the base backup consistent doesn't achieve
much if we can't verify the WAL files afterwards. And fairly obviously
pg_basebackup can't do much about WAL created after its invocation.

Given that we need something separate to address that "verification
hole", I don't see why it's useful to have a special case solution (or
rather multiple ones, for stream and fetch) inside pg_basebackup.

Greetings,

Andres Freund

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