Re: UCT (Re: pgsql: Update time zone data files to tzdata release 2019a.)

From: Andres Freund <andres(at)anarazel(dot)de>
To: Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>
Cc: Shay Rojansky <roji(at)roji(dot)org>, Thomas Munro <thomas(dot)munro(at)gmail(dot)com>, Andrew Gierth <andrew(at)tao11(dot)riddles(dot)org(dot)uk>, Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com>, Stephen Frost <sfrost(at)snowman(dot)net>, Christoph Berg <myon(at)debian(dot)org>, PostgreSQL Hackers <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: UCT (Re: pgsql: Update time zone data files to tzdata release 2019a.)
Date: 2019-08-01 17:19:51
Message-ID: 20190801171951.pzpp5ywdn4pgqjzc@alap3.anarazel.de
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Hi,

On 2019-08-01 10:08:01 -0400, Tom Lane wrote:
> I have in fact committed that patch. It won't do anything for your
> problem with respect to existing installations that may have picked
> "localtime", but it'll at least prevent new initdb runs from picking
> that.

> Avoid choosing "localtime" or "posixrules" as TimeZone during initdb.
>
> Some platforms create a file named "localtime" in the system
> timezone directory, making it a copy or link to the active time
> zone file. If Postgres is built with --with-system-tzdata, initdb
> will see that file as an exact match to localtime(3)'s behavior,
> and it may decide that "localtime" is the most preferred spelling of
> the active zone. That's a very bad choice though, because it's
> neither informative, nor portable, nor stable if someone changes
> the system timezone setting. Extend the preference logic added by
> commit e3846a00c so that we will prefer any other zone file that
> matches localtime's behavior over "localtime".

When used and a symlink, could we resolve the symlink when determining
the timezone? When loading a timezone in the backend, not during
initdb. While that'd leave us with the instability, it'd at least would
help clients etc understand what the setting actually means?

Greetings,

Andres Freund

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