Re: [Proposal] Table-level Transparent Data Encryption (TDE) and Key Management Service (KMS)

From: Stephen Frost <sfrost(at)snowman(dot)net>
To: Ryan Lambert <ryan(at)rustprooflabs(dot)com>
Cc: Bruce Momjian <bruce(at)momjian(dot)us>, Alvaro Herrera <alvherre(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com>, Joe Conway <mail(at)joeconway(dot)com>, Antonin Houska <ah(at)cybertec(dot)at>, Masahiko Sawada <sawada(dot)mshk(at)gmail(dot)com>, Tomas Vondra <tomas(dot)vondra(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com>, Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com>, Haribabu Kommi <kommi(dot)haribabu(at)gmail(dot)com>, "Moon, Insung" <Moon_Insung_i3(at)lab(dot)ntt(dot)co(dot)jp>, Ibrar Ahmed <ibrar(dot)ahmad(at)gmail(dot)com>, PostgreSQL-development <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: [Proposal] Table-level Transparent Data Encryption (TDE) and Key Management Service (KMS)
Date: 2019-07-10 18:57:54
Message-ID: 20190710185754.GU29202@tamriel.snowman.net
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Greetings,

* Ryan Lambert (ryan(at)rustprooflabs(dot)com) wrote:
> > I didn't either, except it was referenced above as "forward hash". I
> > don't know why that was suggested, which is why I listed it as an
> > option/suggestion.
>
> My bad, sorry for the confusion! I meant to say "cipher" not "hash". I
> was (trying to) refer to the method of generating unpredictable IV from
> nonces using the forward cipher function and the encryption key.
> Too many closely related words with very specific meanings.

No worries, just want to try and be clear on these things.. Too easy to
mistakenly think that doing this very-similar-thing will be as secure as
doing the recommended-thing (particularly when the recommended-thing is
a lot harder...), and we don't want to end up doing that and then
discovering it isn't actually secure..

Thanks!

Stephen

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