Re: initdb recommendations

Greetings,

* Joe Conway (mail(at)joeconway(dot)com) wrote:
> On 5/23/19 10:30 PM, Stephen Frost wrote:
> > * Tom Lane (tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us) wrote:
> >> "Jonathan S. Katz" <jkatz(at)postgresql(dot)org> writes:
> >> > For now I have left in the password based method to be scram-sha-256 as
> >> > I am optimistic about the support across client drivers[1] (and FWIW I
> >> > have an implementation for crystal-pg ~60% done).
> >>
> >> > However, this probably means we would need to set the default password
> >> > encryption guc to "scram-sha-256" which we're not ready to do yet, so it
> >> > may be moot to leave it in.
> >>
> >> > So, thinking out loud about that, we should probably use "md5" and once
> >> > we decide to make the encryption method "scram-sha-256" by default, then
> >> > we update the recommendation?
> >>
> >> Meh. If we're going to break things, let's break them. Set it to
> >> scram by default and let people who need to cope with old clients
> >> change the default. I'm tired of explaining that MD5 isn't actually
> >> insecure in our usage ...
> >
> > +many.
>
> many++
>
> Are we doing this for pg12? In any case, I would think we better loudly
> point out this change somewhere.

Sure, we should point it out, but I don't know that it needs to be
screamed from the rooftops considering the packagers have already been
largely ignoring our defaults here anyway...

Thanks,

Stephen