Re: Regression test PANICs with master-standby setup on same machine

From: Andres Freund <andres(at)anarazel(dot)de>
To: Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>
Cc: Kyotaro HORIGUCHI <horiguchi(dot)kyotaro(at)lab(dot)ntt(dot)co(dot)jp>, michael(at)paquier(dot)xyz, kuntalghosh(dot)2007(at)gmail(dot)com, pgsql-hackers(at)lists(dot)postgresql(dot)org
Subject: Re: Regression test PANICs with master-standby setup on same machine
Date: 2019-04-24 16:24:49
Message-ID: 20190424162449.3jrna4iqjm3nzmz2@alap3.anarazel.de
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Hi,

On 2019-04-24 10:13:09 -0400, Tom Lane wrote:
> Kyotaro HORIGUCHI <horiguchi(dot)kyotaro(at)lab(dot)ntt(dot)co(dot)jp> writes:
> > At Wed, 24 Apr 2019 13:23:04 +0900 (Tokyo Standard Time), Kyotaro HORIGUCHI <horiguchi(dot)kyotaro(at)lab(dot)ntt(dot)co(dot)jp> wrote in <20190424(dot)132304(dot)40676137(dot)horiguchi(dot)kyotaro(at)lab(dot)ntt(dot)co(dot)jp>
> >> We need to adjust relative path between PGDATA-based and
> >> pg_tblspc based. The attached first patch does that.
>
> > This is new version. Adjusted pg_basebackup's behavior to allow
> > relative mappings. But..
>
> I can't say that I like 0001 at all. It adds a bunch of complication and
> new failure modes (e.g., having to panic on chdir failure) in order to do
> what exactly? I've not been following the thread closely, but the
> original problem is surely just a dont-do-that misconfiguration. I also
> suspect that this is assuming way too much about the semantics of getcwd
> --- some filesystem configurations may have funny situations like multiple
> paths to the same place.

I'm not at all defending the conrete patch. But I think allowing
relative paths to tablespaces would solve a whole lot of practical
problems, while not meaningfully increasing failure modes. The inability
to reasonably test master/standby setups on a single machine is pretty
jarring (yes, one can use basebackup tablespace maps - but that doesn't
work well for new tablespaces). And for a lot of production setups
absolute paths suck too - it's far from a given that primary / standby
databases need to have the same exact path layout.

Greetings,

Andres Freund

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