Re: plruby: rb_iterate symbol clash with libruby.so

From: Andres Freund <andres(at)anarazel(dot)de>
To: Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>
Cc: Pavel Raiskup <praiskup(at)redhat(dot)com>, PostgreSQL Hacker <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org>, devrim(at)gunduz(dot)org
Subject: Re: plruby: rb_iterate symbol clash with libruby.so
Date: 2018-11-03 18:42:59
Message-ID: 20181103184259.w5g2quh7fevuny23@alap3.anarazel.de
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On 2018-11-03 14:39:45 -0400, Tom Lane wrote:
> Andres Freund <andres(at)anarazel(dot)de> writes:
> >> Pavel Raiskup <praiskup(at)redhat(dot)com> writes:
> >>> Is it realistic we could rename red-black tree methods from 'rb_*' to e.g.
> >>> 'rbt_*' to avoid this clash?
>
> > ISTM this specific case we could solve the issue by opening plruby.so /
> > extension sos with RTLD_DEEPBIND. That doesn't work if ruby extensions
> > that are loaded later use rb_iterate, but should work for the case above.
>
> Doesn't work on non-glibc platforms, though.

Yea, but I'm not sure there's anything portable to do about such cases :/

> > On 2018-11-03 14:19:46 -0400, Tom Lane wrote:
> >> That's not terribly appetizing, because it essentially means we're giving
> >> Ruby (and potentially every other library on the planet) veto power over
> >> our function namespace. That does not scale, especially not when the
> >> feedback loop has a time constant measured in years :-(
> >> I don't have a huge objection to renaming the rbtree functions, other
> >> than the precedent it sets ...
>
> > I don't mind the precedent that much, but isn't that also not unlikely
> > to break other extensions that use those functions?
>
> I rather doubt there are any. Also, if there are, the RTLD_DEEPBIND
> solution would break them too, no?

Why would it break? Deepbind just means the to-be-opened .so is put
first in the search path, if there's no match it'll still look in other
sos.

Greetings,

Andres Freund

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