From: | Andres Freund <andres(at)anarazel(dot)de> |
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To: | Heikki Linnakangas <hlinnaka(at)iki(dot)fi> |
Cc: | Asim R P <apraveen(at)pivotal(dot)io>, Jimmy Yih <jyih(at)pivotal(dot)io>, PostgreSQL mailing lists <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org> |
Subject: | Re: [HACKERS] possible self-deadlock window after bad ProcessStartupPacket |
Date: | 2018-07-19 19:20:53 |
Message-ID: | 20180719192053.vt6ylhaf54mdb3sn@alap3.anarazel.de |
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Hi,
On 2018-07-19 11:57:25 +0300, Heikki Linnakangas wrote:
> On 19/07/18 03:26, Asim R P wrote:
> > On Thu, Jun 22, 2017 at 10:50 AM, Andres Freund <andres(at)anarazel(dot)de> wrote:
> > >
> > > Or, probably more robust: Simply _exit(2) without further ado, and rely
> > > on postmaster to output an appropriate error message. Arguably it's not
> > > actually useful to see hundreds of "WARNING: terminating connection because of
> > > crash of another server process" messages in the log anyway.
> > >
> >
> > To support using _exit(2) in *quickdie() handlers, I would like to
> > share another stack trace indicating self-deadlock. In this case, WAL
> > writer process got SIGQUIT while it was already handling a SIGQUIT,
> > leading to self-deadlock.
>
> Ugh. Yeah, in wal_quickdie, and other aux process *_quickdie() handlers, I
> agree we should just _exit(2). All we want to do is to exit the process
> immediately.
Indeed.
> bgworker_quickdie() makes some effort to block SIGQUIT during the exit()
> processing, but that doesn't solve the whole problem. The process could've
> been in the middle of a malloc/free when the signal arrived, for example.
> exit() is simply not safe to call from a signal handler.
Yea. I really don't understand why we have't been able to agree on this
for *years* now.
> The regular backend's quickdie() function is more tricky. It should also
> call _exit(2) rather than exit(2). But it also tries to ereport a WARNING,
> and that is quite useful.
Is that actually true? Clients like libpq create the same error message
(which has its own issues, because it'll sometimes mis-interpret
things). The message doesn't actually have useful content, no?
Greetings,
Andres Freund
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