From: | Andres Freund <andres(at)anarazel(dot)de> |
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To: | "Jonathan S(dot) Katz" <jkatz(at)postgresql(dot)org> |
Cc: | Alvaro Herrera <alvherre(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com>, Michael Paquier <michael(at)paquier(dot)xyz>, Postgres hackers <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org> |
Subject: | Re: Make description of heap records more talkative for flags |
Date: | 2018-05-15 21:32:55 |
Message-ID: | 20180515213255.jjl2jcpzenpj4mne@alap3.anarazel.de |
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On 2018-05-15 16:28:23 -0500, Jonathan S. Katz wrote:
>
> > On May 15, 2018, at 12:50 PM, Andres Freund <andres(at)anarazel(dot)de> wrote:
> >
> > On 2018-05-15 13:44:58 -0400, Alvaro Herrera wrote:
> >> On 2018-Apr-23, Alvaro Herrera wrote:
> >>
> >>> Now, frankly, this being mostly a debugging tool, I think it would be
> >>> better to have the output as complete as we can. Otherwise, when
> >>> debugging some hideous problem we find ourselves patching the tool
> >>> during an emergency in order to figure out what is going on. For this,
> >>> I would rather patch the earliest version we conveniently can. We
> >>> cannot patch pg10 because it's already out there, but not so for pg11.
> >>
> >> RMT, I would like your opinion on whether to apply a fix for this
> >> problem to pg11 or not.
> >
> > -0.1. We've lived without this for years, I fail to see why this should
> > get an exception / has any sort of urgency. We could establish a policy
> > that we just exclude parts of the source tree from the code freeze, but
> > we haven't so far.
>
> Per Alvaro’s above comment, if this is something low-risk that could prevent
> the “emergency patch” scenario later on when we actually need such
> debugging flags in place, I would be ok with getting this in prior to
> Beta 1.
I have an *extremely* hard time that'd ever be the case. And it'd not
really change much, given several years of back branch releases.
Anyway, I'm only -0.1 here.
Greetings,
Andres Freund
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