From: | Bruce Momjian <bruce(at)momjian(dot)us> |
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To: | Tomas Vondra <tomas(dot)vondra(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com> |
Cc: | Christophe Pettus <xof(at)thebuild(dot)com>, Craig Ringer <craig(at)2ndQuadrant(dot)com>, Thomas Munro <thomas(dot)munro(at)enterprisedb(dot)com>, Andrew Gierth <andrew(at)tao11(dot)riddles(dot)org(dot)uk>, Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com>, Anthony Iliopoulos <ailiop(at)altatus(dot)com>, Andres Freund <andres(at)anarazel(dot)de>, Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>, Catalin Iacob <iacobcatalin(at)gmail(dot)com>, PostgreSQL Hackers <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org> |
Subject: | Re: PostgreSQL's handling of fsync() errors is unsafe and risks data loss at least on XFS |
Date: | 2018-04-17 21:32:45 |
Message-ID: | 20180417213245.GC13097@momjian.us |
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On Mon, Apr 9, 2018 at 03:42:35PM +0200, Tomas Vondra wrote:
> On 04/09/2018 12:29 AM, Bruce Momjian wrote:
> >
> > An crazy idea would be to have a daemon that checks the logs and
> > stops Postgres when it seems something wrong.
> >
>
> That doesn't seem like a very practical way. It's better than nothing,
> of course, but I wonder how would that work with containers (where I
> think you may not have access to the kernel log at all). Also, I'm
> pretty sure the messages do change based on kernel version (and possibly
> filesystem) so parsing it reliably seems rather difficult. And we
> probably don't want to PANIC after I/O error on an unrelated device, so
> we'd need to understand which devices are related to PostgreSQL.
Replying to your specific case, I am not sure how we would use a script
to check for I/O errors/space-exhaustion if the postgres user doesn't
have access to it. Does O_DIRECT work in such container cases?
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