From: | Andres Freund <andres(at)anarazel(dot)de> |
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To: | Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us> |
Cc: | Brent Kerby <blkerby(at)gmail(dot)com>, pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org |
Subject: | Re: Option to ensure monotonic timestamps |
Date: | 2018-02-20 18:26:16 |
Message-ID: | 20180220182616.3bvwnmyz4n57h3di@alap3.anarazel.de |
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Hi,
On 2018-02-20 12:32:22 -0500, Tom Lane wrote:
> The "global" variable would actually need to be cluster-wide, ie in shared
> memory, which would imply contention and the need for locks. I think the
> overhead of this would be mighty high, and the return pretty low.
I think if we wanted to go for something like this (which I doubt), we'd
have that global variable as an atomic 64bit variable in shmem, and
*only* use it for stuff where the ordering actually matters. I.e. not
for transaction start times etc...
> It's also worth pointing out that if you don't trust the kernel clock,
> simply clamping to the last returned value isn't likely to be terribly
> satisfactory. What if $idiotsysadmin steps the clock back an hour?
> We've had actual problems of that sort, for example with the stats
> collector going AWOL for awhile because it thought it'd already written a
> sufficiently new stats file. There's now an explicit check for clock-
> went-backwards in pgstat_recv_inquiry, which will be broken in that sort
> of scenario if you cause GetCurrentTimestamp to do clamping internally.
I guess you could hack something together with CLOCK_MONOTONIC or such,
but brrrr.
Greetings,
Andres Freund
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